RE: cd4 cd8 coexpression/Fl1 or 2-Area vs Fl1 or 2-Width etc

From: Howard Shapiro (hms@shapirolab.com)
Date: Sat Nov 10 2001 - 09:07:50 EST


Howard Mostowski wrote-

>         Following Alice Givan's and others train of thought on this matter
>of one cell vs an aggregate; pardon my naivety on this, could not this
>matter be easily settled not by microscope alone, but using the same methods
>applied to DNA analysis in discerning 2N vs 4N. A hard copy for all
>non-believers and believers alike.

An excellent point; a lot of immunofluorescence work is done with no
attempt made at doublet discrimination.  This demonstrably will cause
problems in telling aggregates from dual positives; it causes even more
problems when there are not true positives and negatives, as is the case
for many activation antigens.  In a stimulated culture, there are almost
certainly more sticky cells than in an unstimulated one, and the scatter
distributions widen, making it difficult to gate out aggregates.  Thus, one
cannot be sure whether a small population exhibiting higher fluorescence
represents cells expressing more of the antigen, aggregates, or both.
In most of my work on activation antigens, going back to the early 1980's,
I stained everything with Hoechst dye; even in stimulated cultures, there
are almost no cells in S, G2, or M phase for 24-30 hr, so it is easy to get
rid of the aggregates.  With a lot more instruments capable of measuring 6
or more colors, it may be advisable for people to add nuclear stains to
their immunofluorescence cocktails to facilitate discrimination of aggregates.

-Howard Shapiro



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