Re: cd4 cd8 coexpression/Fl1 or 2-Area vs Fl1 or 2-Width etc

From: Thomas Delohery (vze29v32@verizon.net)
Date: Wed Nov 14 2001 - 02:25:06 EST


while scattered laser light is crude and rude relative to fluorescence
measurements, the use of a forward scatter pulse-width gate helps
reduce the number of doublets and aggregates.  Using such a gate
significantly improves sort purities.

td

Howard Shapiro wrote:

> Howard Mostowski wrote-
>
> >         Following Alice Givan's and others train of thought on this matter
> >of one cell vs an aggregate; pardon my naivety on this, could not this
> >matter be easily settled not by microscope alone, but using the same methods
> >applied to DNA analysis in discerning 2N vs 4N. A hard copy for all
> >non-believers and believers alike.
>
> An excellent point; a lot of immunofluorescence work is done with no
> attempt made at doublet discrimination.  This demonstrably will cause
> problems in telling aggregates from dual positives; it causes even more
> problems when there are not true positives and negatives, as is the case
> for many activation antigens.  In a stimulated culture, there are almost
> certainly more sticky cells than in an unstimulated one, and the scatter
> distributions widen, making it difficult to gate out aggregates.  Thus, one
> cannot be sure whether a small population exhibiting higher fluorescence
> represents cells expressing more of the antigen, aggregates, or both.
> In most of my work on activation antigens, going back to the early 1980's,
> I stained everything with Hoechst dye; even in stimulated cultures, there
> are almost no cells in S, G2, or M phase for 24-30 hr, so it is easy to get
> rid of the aggregates.  With a lot more instruments capable of measuring 6
> or more colors, it may be advisable for people to add nuclear stains to
> their immunofluorescence cocktails to facilitate discrimination of aggregates.
>
> -Howard Shapiro



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