Re: Conversion from Log to channel values

From: Steve G. Hilliard (steve@habanero.cb.uga.edu)
Date: Tue Jun 06 2000 - 17:46:40 EST


Olindo,

Forgive me if I'm confused, but are you trying to convert values
(number of cells) for each channel, or convert channel numbers (x-axis,
0 to 1023)  to log values (1 to 10000)?  To do the later we use the same
formula  you found in the manual.  Here's our version:

log value = 10^ [channel number / full scale ch number) * decade range]

On our Elite full scale ch number = 1024 and decade range is 4, which is
where they get the 256 scale factor.

That gives you a range of 1-10000, while the original scale values the
Elite provided were 0.1-1000, but I just multiply each by 0.1.

I don't know whether this helps you at all--I had to do this to get single
parameter histos to plot correctly in Excel.

Steve

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On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Olindo Assis wrote:

>
> Dear Flowers,
>
> It was clear for me, after I read the answers to my question about mean
> fluorescence channel analysis that most people suggested to analyze the data
> using the original number "mean" from the Log scale (10^0 - 10^4).
>
> However, I had analyzed most of my data after conversion of original data to
> channel values. Then, I start to have a problem because I did not want to go
> back and reanalyze all data since we have over 2,000 files to be analyzed.
>
> Therefore I was looking for a formula (mathematical expression) to convert
> the data back to Log values. Actually I found it on the CellQuest BD manual
> on chapter 6 "histograms". They say that to convert channel values to Log
> and vice-versa we just need to apply the following expression:
>
> Log values = 10^(channel value/*scale factor)
>
> where scale factor is 256 for a 0-1024 scale and 64 for a 0-256 scale.
>
>



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