Barbara, In reference to you original posting about the origins of the tail seen in your AnV-FITC vs CD8-PE plot I think that it is a compensation issue. The FITC signal looks undercompensated from the PE, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it is "really bad". In fact, it doesn't really affect your quadrant statistics at all since the entire tail is in a single quadrant. It just doesn't "look" right. You mention below that it might be overcompensated. If this was an example of overcompensation, you wouldn't see the tail. Everything would be squished against the axis. Some might say that the events to the left of the tail ARE squished against the axis. They are a little squished, but I think this is because the PE PMT voltage is a little low. Running with a little higher voltage in all detectors to pull the negatives a little further from the origin may make suitable compensation a little bit easier to visualize. I also think you can rule out autofluorescence. In my experience, problematic autofluorescence typically shows up as a double positive population that streaks out from the origin of a two parameter plot. That little curl of a tail at the high end of the FITC scale just doesn't fit the pattern I'm used to seeing. On another note, what about dead cell discrimination? I find it imperative to use a dead cell discriminator along with AnV to gate out false positives. What does the rest of the flow world have to say about this? David McFarland GlaxoSmithKline ----- Forwarded by David C McFarland/DEV/PHRD/SB_PLC on 12-Aug-2002 14:46 ----- Barbara_Kutzner@hc-sc.gc.ca 09-Aug-2002 08:39 To: "Cytometry Mailing List" cc: Subject: data question - omitted info Sorry about that folks, it seems I forgot to attach the axis labels to the plot. PMT2 is Annexin V -FITC, PMT3 is CD8 - PE. The gate was placed on lymphocytes only not all cells. As it has been asked, I have included all the data plots I have from that sample (1.0 Gy) analysis (suggestions were that it may be bleed over from another channel, that it is over compensated, that the population is too close to the axis thereby throwing off compensation) Original plot 1.0 Gy sample data (See attached file: flow plot.JPG) (See attached file: 1Gy flow.jpg) Thanks again, Barb ____________________ Barbara Kutzner Technologist Radiation Protection Bureau Health Canada 775 Brookfield Road, PL 6303B Ottawa, ON K1A 1C1 (613) 952-9069 FAX (613) 941-1734
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