Re: 7-AAD/PE problem

From: DAVID M CODER (d_coder@MSN.com)
Date: Fri Feb 01 2002 - 12:36:00 EST


This, of course, would have to be without the addition of PI.

Dave
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From: "Gerhard Nebe-von-Caron" <Gerhard.Nebe-von-Caron@unilever.com>
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Subject: RE: 7-AAD/PE problem


>
> Apart from energy transfer consider electron / photon overflow and
compensation
> problems.
>
> Excitation of TP3 with a HENE LASER does give you a nice TOPRO signal but
> should not prevent FRET in the blue laser beam if there is still an energy
> transferring dye combination present.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: DAVID M CODER [SMTP:d_coder@msn.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:20 PM
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> Subject: Re: 7-AAD/PE problem
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>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Corver, W.E. (PATH)" <W.E.Corver@lumc.nl>
> To: cyto-inbox
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 9:06 AM
> Subject: RE: 7-AAD/PE problem
>
>
> >
> > Dear Brian,
> >
> > [part deleted]
> > After fixation you can use methanol, ethanol, lysolecithin or
detergents.
> > For nuclear staining, we obtained the best results with methanol.
> > Second, we also observed reduction of FITC as well as PE fluorescence
> using
> > PI and TO-PRO-3 as DNA stain. (Cytometry 15:117-128, 1994 and Cytometry
> > 28:329-336, 1997). The phenomenon could not be fully explained by
> absorption
> > or energy transfer. This was very limited as demonstrated by fluorometry
> > experiments using dye mixtures at the lab of Hans Tanke (Sylvius Lab,
> > Leiden). What is causing the effect is still unclear to us but maybe
> > somebody else has a suggestion.
> Energy transfer seems the best explanation. FITC and PI are a near optimal
> pair; PE and PI less so, but still there is overlap. PI and TO-PRO-3 are a
> very good pair: the emission of PI overlaps well the absorption of
TO-PRO-3
> (e.g., a HeNe laser at 633nm excites TP-3 very well), and both dyes
> intercalate into DS-DNA. In fact, the only way to observe TO-PRO-3
> fluorescence when only a 488nm line is available is by transfer from PI.
All
> such energy transfer (FITC, PE --> PI; PI-->TP3) is avoided with direct
> excitation of TP-3 by red (633 to 647nm) excitation.
>
> Best regards,
> Dave
> ----------------
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>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Newsom, Brian S. [mailto:BSNEWSOM@txccc.org]
> > Sent: maandag 28 januari 2002 22:02
> > To: cyto-inbox
> > Subject: 7-AAD/PE problem
> >
> >
> >
> > Question to all of you DNA experts. We have someone who is tring to run
an
> > experiment staining a nuclear localized protien with PE and then
staining
> > with 7-AAD. The 7-AAD staining works well with a good CV. The antibody
> > staining looks decent (although low percentage and fairly dim) when by
> > itself, but when the 7-AAD is added the antibody staining totally goes
> away.
> > Is there an energy transfer or steric hinderance issue that may be going
> on?
> > Any help appreciated.
> >
> > Brian
> >
>
>



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