Re: CFSE

From: Ray Hicks (rh208@cam.ac.uk)
Date: Tue Nov 13 2001 - 07:13:36 EST


Hi Jake,

Possible answers to your questions include:
 a) you've co-purified another cell type in your CD4 positive selection
(monocytes or something sticky) that do not respond to your T-cell-specific
stimulation, and so don't divide (whereas those that do divide are CD3
positive T-cells).  To check this against your hypothesis (CFSE
interference) you should stain for CD3 and perhaps a panel of other
leucocyte markers before you load with CFSE and see if anything changes when
you load with CFSE.  What's the FSC/SSC like for the non-dividing CD3
negatives? - you should be able to gate them out if they are monocytes.

b) Probably "illegal" - presumably you've set your compensation so that CFSE
alone goes straight along the FL1 axis and PE alone goes straight along the
FL2 axis for a given pair of FL1/FL2 PMT voltages.  If you then alter the
voltages, the compensation required changes - increase FL2 PMT and the CFSE
single positives will move upwards (the doubles will as well, but nowhere
near as much)


Ray

> From: "Jake Kohlmeier" <jkohl@ku.edu>
> Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 17:39:38 -0800
> To: Cytometry Mailing List <cytometry@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu>
> Subject: CFSE
>
>
> Dear flowers,
> Being a rookie in this field, I was wondering if anyone out there has
> answers to some of the problems I have encountered with CFSE staining.  When
> I label purified human CD4+ T cells with CFSE and also stain with a second
> marker (CD3 for example) I see a population of cells that have not divided
> that appear negative for CD3, as well as some that are positive.  In cells
> that have undergone 1 or more divisions, there is no longer a CD3 negative
> population.  As I expect, when I run CD3 alone as a control all the cells
> are positive.
>
> If I increase the voltage in FL2 when looking at CFSE and CD3
> simultaneously, I can "move" the CD3 negative cells so they are now positive
> without affecting the intensity of the cells that were positive to begin
> with at the lower voltage.  So my questions are:
>
> Why am I seeing a CD3 negative population and why do I see it only in
> non-dividing cells?  Does this have anything to do with the fact that the
> stronger CFSE signal from non-dividing cells is somehow interfering?
>
> Also, is increasing the voltage of FL2 a "legal" thing to do to make this
> small population of cells stain positive for CD3?  I want to be sure that by
> doing this I'm not changing reality and the data are still of good quality.
> Any suggestions are welcome.  Thanks.
>
> Jake Kohlmeier
> Department of Molecular Biosciences
> University of Kansas
> 1200 Sunnyside Ave.
> Lawrence, KS 66045
> (785) 864-4029
>



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