All those requests were ignored until Cytomation started listening. Akos Biogen "Swartzendruber, Douglas" <Douglas.Swartzendruber@pepperdine.edu> on 08/15/2001 04:28:15 PM To: cyto-inbox cc: Subject: RE: Automated Flow/96 well plate etc. Interesting - same song, different verse. Decades ago, many 'voices' got together to try and convince BD and Coulter that their systems should be interfaced with pc's and/or macs rather than to their own in-house systems; [out-house would be more descriptive]. However, when folks would no longer purchase their systems, and were writing their own software to make things run, and started companies to do the same, the situation changed. Thus, Purchase Orders speak much louder than 'voices.' Swartzendruber -----Original Message----- From: Mostowski, Howard S. [mailto:mostowski@cber.fda.gov] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 1:47 PM To: cyto-inbox Subject: Automated Flow/96 well plate etc. Hey automated flow jocks and jockettes, Where were you hiding when I was trying to persuade B-D to step-up the technology on their plate analyzer. The fact is that the FACSMate is a very good and reliable instrument, to bad it runs on Lysis software and on the old H/P. There fore like everyone else who utilized the FACSMate, we had to run two different systems, transfer and convert data. Why? B-D claimed no one out there had a need for automated flowcytometry. The stories I heard ranged from B-D did not want us to do our assays in 96 well plates, because you would need less antibody-less profit, to some outside individual owned the patient and was not giving in to B-D. Take your choice, bottom line we out here are hurting by this slow progress. Last month the hard drive went on my old H/P. The FACSMate was still running fine [just have to keep it clean]. All I would need is the software to run it on the Mac. No go. Having no avenues to turn to I was forced to buy B-D's new plate sampler for 35K; which I am still waiting for. Come on Mario R. get that thing to work I'm getting killed here. Yes it is about time we all screamed with one voice, maybe with competition someone will listen when the dollar is involved. Instead of trying to invent something "cut" for the cytometry world, how about something practical. Howard S. Mostowski
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