Hola Martha I agree with the comments given to you in a previous reply. We have pulsed human Bone Marrow cells for 30 minutes and gotten a good population with BrdU. Longer than a couple hours labeling seemed to be toxic to the cells. We found that 2M HCl worked fine. Recently I have used a "home-brew" variation of the Pharmingen BrdU kit that uses fixing and permeabilization in conjunction with DNAse, to stain for PI (FL3), BrdU-FITC and a PE and an APC surface antigen. It has worked very well, and although the phase distinction of PI is not quite as good as the HCl method, G0/G1 and G2/M were distinct peaks. I'd be happy to send you a protocol ********************** Artur Plett, PhD Post-doctoral fellow IU School of Medicine Div. of Hematology/Oncology Indianapolis, IN 46202 -----Original Message----- From: Leigh Eward [mailto:rosemarythyme80@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 5:28 PM To: cyto-inbox Subject: Re: Help about BrdU Hello Martha, With regards to question 1) a pulse-label of 8 hrs is likely much longer than necessary for a culture with a 22 hr doubling time. We pulse cell lines with similar doubling times for 1 hr or less. As for the 72hr (Kg1A), I would recommend trying a range of pulse-labelling times from 2-4 hrs. Your concentration of BrdU (10uM) seems appropriate. One word of caution-- optimize and use the smallest pulse-labelling time possible. Bromodeoxyuridine can be "disturbing" to cells in culture... With regards to question 2), we use a protocol which uses 4N HCl with very good results. (One technical point to note-- if your stock HCl is 12N (for instance) it is critical to dilute the HCl immediately prior to staining). Lastly, an older reference which seems to be quite appropriate (although there are many good papers on this subject) would be Tsurusawa et al. (1988), "Flow cytometric analysis by bromodeoxyuridine/DNA assay of cell cycle perturbation of methotrexate-treated mouse L1210 leukemia cells." They have no trouble using PI in conjunction with BrdU to distinguish cell cycle position. Good luck! Leigh Eward Florida Institute of Technology Cell Biology _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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