Hello Andy, We have a MoFlo but did notice something similar with PE-Cy7. We have a 3 laser bench. Our first laser is a HeNe, 2nd one is kept at 488nm and the third one we convert to various wavelengths. I had the 3rd laser set at 514nm and compared the signal for PE-Cy7 (785/50) at 488nm or at 514nm. We only had positive staining if the signal was collected off the 514nm (3rd) laser path. We saw nothing from the 488 (2nd)laser. At first we thought maybe it was the difference in exciting PE from the 514 vs 488. So I move the 488 laser into the 3rd laser path and we did get a positive signal. Also, if I moved the 514nm laser into the 2nd laser path we had positive signal in the PMT that gave no signal with 488nm excitation of PE-Cy7. Thus, it wasn't the difference in the laser wavelength or in the 2 PMTs we were comparing. What it turned out to be was that I had a blocking filter in front of the laser 2 PMT stack to block any stray 514 light coming in to the 488 pmts stack when both lasers are on. It is a 521LP filter. When this was removed, we had positive signal for PE-Cy7 from the 2nd laser (488). So even though this is a long pass filter it blocks signal in the 785/50 range. Possibly you have a bogus filter in your setup. Good luck Lucy Brown Beckman Research Institute/City of Hope 626-359-8111 X3306 lbrown@coh.org ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Decreased signal in FL3 with SE upgrade Author: "MORSCHAUSER, ANDREW" <ANDREW.MORSCHAUSER@spcorp.com> Date: 12/19/00 11:04 AM This message is directed towards FACSVantage users that have upgraded their machine from a FACSVantage to a FACSVantageSE w/Turbosort. I am experiencing a decreased sensitivity in FL-3. When comparing alignment particles (cRBC, Alignflow beads, Calibrite beads) between a FACSVantage, FACSVantageSE w/TSO and a FACSCalibur, results have shown the FACSVantage SE signal to be significantly lower than the Vantage or Calibur. Furthermore, when looking at splenocytes stained with CD4 PE-Cy7 (787/40 filter), there is no discrimination between negative/unstained cells vs. stained cells. The signals on the FACSVantage and Calibur are nearing the third decade while the FACSVantageSE signal was negative with log amps and voltages greater than 900V. I tried increasing the log offset as far as it will go and found little if any improvement in the signal. Boards have been replaced and new PMTs in FL3 have done nothing to remedy the problem. BD has been very responsive to my concerns, but the problem is still present and I was wondering if anyone else has experienced similar problems with the extra mirror and different optical path for a 5-color FACSVantage SE. Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Andy Morschauser Schering-Plough Research Institute Department of Immunology 2015 Galloping Hill Road K15-3-3945 Kenilworth, NJ 07033 908-740-3089
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