Dear flow-ers, I am very much surprise and in a shock after learning from the board that some people can take up to 1 ml from the heart of a mice. Just from the mouse point of view, 1 ml represent about 20-25% of the whole blood volumen and even for an expert mice heart surgeon, to take such volumen will produce a shock in the animal. Just for comparison, if you take from a human donor, 25% of blood, it means that you are producing a non-reversible hypovolemic shock in a patient. I imagine that the lawsuits will flood your place. I do not know the rules for animal experimentation in other places but the rules that I do know, only allow to take not more than 200 ul of blood each three weeks. I imagine that you will have to write to the board that review your application for animal experimentation, your procedures and how you will treat your animals. Taking 1 ml of blood from the heart is not VIP treatment. I really question the legality, benefits and scientific grounds for such invasive procedures. Rafael \|/ (o o) ________________________________oOo__(_)__oOo_________________________________ ___/\_ | Rafael Nunez mailto:rafaeln@vetvir.unizh.ch / o \/| | University Inst.for Virology http://www.vetvir.unizh.ch/ / _| | Winterthurerstr. 266a Telephone: (+41) 1 6358710 /_/\__/-\/ | 8057 Zurich SWITZERLAND Faximile : (+41) 1 6358911 ______________________________________________________________________________
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