Re: Clone Cyt-How many drops

From: FACS_COPY@wehi.edu.au
Date: Fri Feb 11 2000 - 02:49:07 EST


Geoff, you say:

> ... From my own experience a three drop
> envelope gives better purity over a wider range of Dop Delays   than a
> 2 or 1 drop delay.With a one drop envelope drop delay must be spot on,
> any drift and purity is lost.I'm sure lots of people reading this with
> ageing Vantages get some varation in drop delay it seems to me this
> is being compensated for by a three drop envlope.What do other people
> use? A friend of mine with a new Vantage SE uses a 1.5 drop envelope I
> dont see the logic in this as half the time it sorts 2 drops and half
> the time it sorts 1!Which is best?

I share your concern about sorting single drops.  Sorting 1.5 or 2 
drops per event gives an added safety net in case of drift or 
inaccurate drop delay setting.  The way I understand it (and someone 
from B_D *should* correct me if I'm wrong) with 1.5 droplet sorts, if 
the cell is detected to be in the first quarter of the drop, the
previous drop is also sorted.  If the cell is in the last quarter, the
following drop is also sorted.  Otherwise, only the drop with the cell
is sorted.  It takes only a little thought to realize that, if your
breakoff setting is in error by less than one quarter droplet, you
will not lose *any* cells in 1.5 drop sorting.  Similarly, with 
2-droplet sorting, where the choice of additionally sorting the
preceding or following droplet depends on whether the cell is in the
first or last *half* of its droplet, your breakoff setting is allowed
to be up to 0.5 drops in error before you start losing cells. 

Which one is best depends on your own experience of how accurately you
can set your breakoff and how much your sorter drifts.  We use 2 drop
sorting on both our FACS II and FACStar+ for the reason of the 0.5
droplet safety net. 

Frank.

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