I would like to hear a statement from BD on this issue.. F Preffer At 08:45 AM 09/03/1999 -0400, Elaine Kunze wrote: > >Could anyone with Beckman-Coulter experience answer as well? (slower >response if no service contract). > > >At 02:52 PM 9/1/99 -0400, you wrote: >> >>Fellow flowers and BD instrument users, >> >>In the never ending quest to decrease instrument costs we are exploring the >>possibility of dropping the relatively expensive BD service contracts >>(BDSC) on our FACScan and TSO Vantage for something called the "University >>Hospital Consortium Capital Asset Management Program" (CAMP). >> >>The CAMP program appears to be a "self-insured" style of effort where, >>instead of paying BD, we would pay the CAMP general fund a lesser amount >>(40 - 80% less than BD!) each year. Should a machine require repair service >>or routine preventative maintenance we could simply call BD and request >>service or maintenance as usual and the cost of these repairs or >>maintenance is covered by CAMP. According to the information, there is no >>prior "approval" process required by CAMP. >> >>On the face of it, CAMP appears to offer a tremendous savings over the BDSC >>and seems to be a no brainer. Under CAMP, we would continue to receive the >>excellent (in our experience) BD service at reduced cost, without the delay >>of an up front, third party approval process. >> >>Yet, there may be a darker side to this equation. Without the official BDSC >>we fear we may fall prey to vastly increased response times from our BD >>Field Service Engineers (FSE). It has been reported that so called >>"billable accounts" ie; those folks not on a BDSC, are placed "on the >>bottom of the priority visit list" by a FSE - and that this may in fact be >>a BD company policy. >> >>So, my question is have any of you out there in BD flow land without a BDSC >>experienced slowed service call response times? If so could you please >>relate your experiences and opinions. >> >>Thanks in advance, >> >><+>:<+>:<+>:<+>:<+>:<+>:<+>:<+>:<+>:<+>:<+>:<+> >>Barry Grimes >>FACS Laboratory Manager >>Hematopoiesis Center >>Univ. of Kentucky Medical Center >>Blood and Marrow Transplant >>Rm.cc418 Markey Cancer Center >>800 Rose St, Lexington,KY 40536-0093 >>lab) 606-323-8193 >>fax) 606-257-7715 >>e-mail) bagrim1@pop.uky.edu >><+>:<+>:<+>:<+>:<+>:<+>:<+>:<+>:<+>:<+>:<+>:<+> >> >> >> >> >**************************************************************************** > Elaine Kunze > Flow Cytometry.....Image Analysis... > The Biotechnology Institute for Research and Education > Life Sciences Consortium > 8B Althouse Laboratory (814-863-2762) > Penn State University > > > ````````````````````````````````````````````````` Frederic I. Preffer preffer@helix.mgh.harvard.edu Department of Pathology- Room 7140 149 13th Street Massachusetts General Hospital-East Charlestown, MA 02129 v(617) 726-7481 fax (617) 724-3164 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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