RE: FACScaliber vs Coulter XL:summary of replies

From: Gerhard Nebe-von-Caron (Gerhard.Nebe-von-Caron@Unilever.com)
Date: Fri Jun 25 1999 - 11:06:16 EST


Just to comment that you can indeed set up the XL to see the unlabelled cells.
I usually set them to occupy the entire first decade. They have a broader
distribution as you work in the noise range whilst I understand that BD uses an
offset which leads to a smaller distribution in the first decade. Having worked
on BD and Coulter instruments I would not say that they are more or less
difficult to compensate, neither that one or the other is easier to use or more
or less sensitive to fluorescence. It depends more on what you are used to work
with. I contribute to the regular confusion by plotting forward scatter on the
Y-axis and sidescatter on the X-axis and both in log - which scares the hell
out of most users of either type of instrument as it is unfamiliar to them.

To be even more provocative I thought you might want to have a look at the
DAKO/Partec hybrid that might feel even more unfamiliar but is said to offer
full automatisation including the addition of antibodies to the sample (even if
they are from a different manufacturer). I'm looking forward to the first
feedback on that instrument.

Happy choice

Gerhard




 

-----Original Message-----
From:	Eric Miller [SMTP:e.miller@icrf.icnet.uk]
Sent:	Wednesday, June 23, 1999 2:15 PM
To:	Cytometry Mailing List
Subject:	FACScaliber vs Coulter XL:summary of replies


Here is my summary of opinions from round the cytometry group: thanks folks!
PS. these are only opinions I recieved: my own views are not included!


Approximately 70% of responders favoured FACScaliber.
The rest preferred Coulter, apart from one responder who used a MoFlo and
liked it very much.

FACS pros:

Negative population is shown as a discreet population
More 4-colour reagents are available
Machine and computer are faster in use.
Less of a learning curve in upgrading from FACscan
Easier to use
Good technical backup
Upgradable to sorting and dual laser

FACS cons:

More expensive

Coulter XL pros:

Well developed data acquisition system
Superior fluidics(sample acquisition can be halted without wasting sample)
Gating can be altered during acquisition
Good technical and service support
Good interface for clinical samples
Cheaper than FACS

Coulter cons:

No upgrade to sorting
Not as good with dim fluorescence
Negative population not displayed -leading to
difficulty in setting compensation

MoFlo pros:

Speed of sorting (c. 20-40,000 cells/sec)
Simple design
Easy adjustments

MoFlo cons:

Smaller user base
No UK office
No local knowledge of machine



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