see http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/flowcyt/research/micrflow/gerhard/gerhard.htm from the purdue CD rom for an example. Pure cultures look of course much nicer and are a good system to ensure antibody saturation, in particular when comparing unpurified culture supernatants for signal intensity. Signal intensities can vary significantly for both scatter and fluorescence depending on microorganism, antibody clone, epitope frequency and growth conditions e.g. cell volume. I have also used combinations with a PE second step fluorescence and CFDA for metabolically active cells and PI for permeabilised cells, but the FITC/EB/PI combination was more generally applicable. Fab2 fragments are required and I actually used preadsorbed polyclonals from DAKO which showed the lowest background at the time. Counterstaining is very important as otherwise you detect antibody negative events that are not necessarily bacteria. Also make sure everything including the sheath and the growth medium of your test culture is filtered before use to avoid measuring unwanted bacteria. The staining in 96 well filter plates described in the text is a big improvement in sample handling as it makes the washing steps quite easy and quick. We have now three filterplate system in our department alone as the technique has been proven very useful for other applications as well. All the best Gerhard ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: FACS on gram+ bacteria Author: Roederer@Stanford.edu at INTERNET Date: 07/06/1999 20:31 We have a group that is trying to detect antibody staining of antigens on the surface of gram-positive bacteria. Does anyone have experience with this? (Or, more generally, analysis of gram+, or of surface antibody staining on gram-negatives). We'd be interested in seeing some typical methods (what colors do you use, do you use second step reagents) and to see some typical profiles of both scatter and fluorescence. Thanks for any information! mr
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