RE: subtraction program immuno-4

From: Tom Mc Closkey (thomasm@nshs.edu)
Date: Fri Mar 26 1999 - 19:53:36 EST


--- On Wed, 24 Mar 1999 10:00:56 +1100 Kristy Weir 
<cozens@postoffice.utas.edu.au> wrote:

>
>Dear Flow-ers
>
>		I'm a student using Mark's email (Kristy Weir).
>I'm using Immuno-4 subtraction program on a coulter elite.  Is overton
>subtraction/Immuno-4 used widely? How acceptable is it for publishing data?
>I'm looking at sheep dendritic cells for phenotype analysis.  Negative
>controls are within the first log decade and are quite clean. I've compared
>Immuno-4 to placing a gate manually and the results are quite comparable
>(within 2-5% difference).
>Any help would be much appreciated, thanks in advance.
>
	Algorithms such as Oversub and Immuno are useful for phenotypic data 
whch has a continuous distributuion ie no clear positive population.  For 
antigens where there is a clear positive and negative, like human CD4 and 
CD8, a region can just be drawn on the positives to get percentage or 
relative fluorescence intesntiy information.  For antigens with a continuous 
distribution, such as HLADR in humans, it is much more difficult to 
determine the percentage of cells which actually express that molecule.  A 
good way to handle data such as this is to describe the fluorescence 
intensity of the entire population.  However, if you wish to quantitate the 
percent positve as well, I think using an algoritm is a superior method as 
compared to simply drawing a cursor.

	As I recall, the Immuno program requires the user to set certain 
regions, negative, positive, etc.  Also, I think there are certain 
requirements that need to be met for dat a to be analyzabel by this program. 
 The Oversub algorithm requires less user input, and might be more 
consistent.  I think if you stick to one method, for comparative purposes 
this is OK.  

Good luck,
Tom


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North Shore University Hospital
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3/26/99   5:02:23 PM
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