Re: chromosome sorting - again

From: Howard Shapiro (hms@shapirolab.com)
Date: Wed Jan 28 1998 - 19:09:52 EST


>The question has come up again - Can one sort chromosomes with low-power
>Argon laser(s)
>(ONE water cooled & tunable, one 488 nm ONLY) in a FACStar+?
>
>1) single laser 488 nm  TOTO-1 (AT selective) and 7-AAD (GC selective)?
>
I spent several years evaluating a whole lot of combinations theoretically
usable with 488 nm, including that one, and, under the best of circumstances
all you see with any of them is a hint that some groups of chromosomes
aren't on the 45 degree line.  The CV's of the individual clusters aren't as
good as you would get with propidium alone.  7-AAD gives a very low
intensity signal, which is part of the problem with CV's.

>2) single laser UV (350/360 nm)?
I don't know whether anybody has worked up potential bivariate dye
combinations for single-beam UV excitation; most folks who can afford the UV
can afford a 457 (or a 441 He-Cd).

>
>3) 457 nm and 488 nm dual lasers?
>
Mithramycin/ethidium is a popular DNA stain for excitation by arc lamp
systems (436 nm); a mithramycin or chromomycin combination with ethidium or
propidium should give you some separation in a bivariate space, although I
don't know of any reports on the subject.


>4) 350/360 nm and 488 nm dual lasers?
>
The Los Alamos group has reported on this in Cytometry some years back,
using Hoechst/TOTO or YOYO; that would probably be your best bet given the
available lasers.

I got some fair bivariate histograms using TOTO-1 and TOTO-3 with 488 and
633 nm excitation; Tom Frey at B-D did even better, using thiazole orange
and thiazole blue, or maybe it was TO-PRO-1 and TO-PRO-3, according to a
poster he presented at the 1993 ISAC Meeting.  As I recall, this stuff
didn't find its way into his published paper in Cytometry, which dealt with
using low power UV and 441 from He-Cd lasers for bivariate chromosome
sorting with Hoechst/chromomycin.  I have played that game, so has Kit Snow
at Coulter, in conjunction with Scott Cram.

A FACStar is probably going to want 100 mW or so of UV and blue for
bivariate analysis; if you can get UV from the tunable argon, you might
consider getting a 100 mW 441 nm He-Cd, which is probably available for
under $20,000, because that should do OK for chromomycin (if the laser isn't
too noisy).

-Howard



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