Richard, if it's any consolation HEK 293 cells are the pain of my life too. Unfortunately they are rather easy to transfect and respond well in calcium assays, etc. so seem to have become a standard in the pharmaceutical industry. Nobody thinks about the poor person trying to create the cell lines. Basically HEK 293 cells do not like to be alone in the well, so many clones do not start growing. Could I suggest if you are using a selection reagent in your medium to isolate cells expressing your receptors, that you pre-seed your wells with some wild-type HEK 293 cells that are sensitive to your selection agent, geneticin, hygromycin, whatever. They should survive long enough to provide the platform for your sorted HEK 293 cells to grow. I have used this technique for other cell types but not HEK 293. If you do get it to work, could you share your findings? Hope that's helpful. Simon GlaxoSmithKline R&D UK "Hastings, Richard C" <richard.hastings@astrazeneca.com> 18-Dec-2002 15:57 To: "Cytometry Mailing List" cc: Subject: Sorting HEK 293 and establishing clonal cell lines Hi, This message is related to the CHO cell sorting thread. I perform many sorts with HEK 293 and CHO transfected with different receptors. I generally perform single cell deposition into each well of 96 well plates to establish clonal cell lines. My problem is getting these single cell clones to grow especially with the HEK 293 (I have much better success generating CHO lines). I have tried all sorts of little tricks to get these cells to grow such as using conditioned media in the wells, and using collagen- or poly-D-lysine-coated plates. My success rate with single cell deposition with HEK 293 is quite poor, I am estimating its probably below 1%. Meaning, I am lucky to generate one clone per 96 well plate. Of course, success depends quite a bit on the gene transfected into the HEK 293 and the health of the cells at the time of sorting. Does anybody know of any conditions that would increase the number of clones I could generate using HEK 293? Thanks, Rich Richard C. Hastings Associate Scientist Target Expression/LDD 1800 Concord Pike Wilmington, DE 19803 302-886-2452 richard.hastings@astrazeneca.com
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