I agree that I haven't seen anything useful for immunophenotyping using the 325 nm line, although I do have a couple more that I will try in the near future. I know that some people have said that they can make Alexa 350 work, but it didn't work very well in my hands. However, the 325 nm line IS useful for exciting aminostilbamidine methanesulfonate. We use it frequently for dead cell discrimination. It gives resolution between live and dead better than 7AAD and almost as good as PI. It is available from Molecular Probes. If you're interested in getting 2 colors from the UV/V range (besides Indo) see if you can swap your 325 nm for a 405 nm. This would allow you to use Cascade Blue and Yellow. Talk to your sales rep to see what you can work out. One more tip: If you start to use more of these "exotic" fluors, you'll be hard pressed to find them conjugated to your Abs of choice. Another reagent from Molecular Probes that has really opened some doors for us is their Zenon Ab conjugation kit. They have a wide range of fluors available. They have kits to conjugate mouse IgG1 and rabbit Ig and I believe they will also have kits for mouse IgG2a and 2b in the near future. It's good stuff! Happy flowing, Dave David McFarland GlaxoSmithKline ----- Forwarded by David C McFarland/DEV/PHRD/SB_PLC on 04-Nov-2002 09:52 ----- "Marty Bigos" <mbigos@gladstone.ucsf.edu> 31-Oct-2002 11:34 To: "Cytometry Mailing List" cc: Subject: Re: Fluorochromes choice Dear experts in flow cytometry, I have a possibility to use 6 colors FACS. The trouble is that I am not sure it is possible with the filters I have. I would very much appreciate any help. The instrument has three lasers: 325, 488 and 633 nm and I can use following filters: 380/LP 400/40 424/44 500/11 510/20 530/28 575/15 610/20 660/13 670/LP 682/13 Is it possible to find 6 different flourochromes, which would be efficiently differentiated with these filters/lasers ? There are no useful fluorochromes for phenotyping that are excited by 325 nm. So you are limited to the 488 and 633 excitation. In addition to bandpass detection filters, it is also important to optimize the beamsplitters and the detectors, especially for measuring the red emitting dyes. Six dyes that would be useful for your system are: Using 488 nm excitation: FITC PE PE-TR (aka ECD from Beckman-Coulter) PE-Cy7 and using the 633 nm excitation: APC APC-Cy7 We use these regularly on our Vantage SE for 6 color work. However, without knowing your instrument configuration I could not say whether they would work for you. I would guess that from the filters you described above, you would have trouble detecting PE-Cy7, APC-Cy7, and quite possibly APC. Marty Thank you very much for your help. Michal -- Michal Abel, MD, PhD Laboratory of Clinical Immunology INSERM U25 Necker Hospital, 161 Rue de Sèvres. Paris tel: 33 1 42 19 28 87 fax: 33 1 44 49 53 74 -- Marty Bigos Director, Flow Cytometry Core Laboratory Gladstone Institute of Virology and Immunology Mail: Box 419100 San Francisco, CA 94141 Packages: 365 Vermont Street San Francisco, CA 94103 Direct Delivery (FedEX, UPS): Gladstone Institute San Francisco General Hospital Building 3 Rm 509 1001 Potrero Avenue San Francisco, CA 94110 (tel) 415-695-3832 (fax) 415-826-8449 mbigos@gladstone.ucsf.edu http://gladstone.ucsf.edu
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