RE: CD4 on stimulated human T cells

From: Hodge, Greg (HAEM) (hodgeg@mail.wch.sa.gov.au)
Date: Thu Oct 17 2002 - 17:29:36 EST


> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Ritchie [SMTP:dritchie@malaghan.org.nz]
> Sent: Thursday, 17 October 2002 4:18 AM
> To:	Cytometry Mailing List
> Subject:	CD4 on stimulated human T cells
>
> David,
>
> This is a well recognised phemomenom with CD4 and CD56 (and CD14 if LPS
> concentrations are too high). Dont know whether these molecules are lost
> or some internalised. CD4 is usually brighter if you stain surface and
> cytokines following permeabilisation, so some CD4 may be internalised.
> Most workers get around the problem by analysing the CD3+/CD8- (CD4+)
> subset but you should check that CD3/CD8 + CD3/CD4 = total CD3 cells in
> case of CD3+/CD8-/CD4- cells present in sample.
>
> Greg Hodge
>
>
> Any suggestions welcomed on below problem,
>
> We are tracking the cytokine profiles (by intracellular staining) produced
> by CD4+ T cells in patients who have undergone allogeneic bone marrow
> transplant (BMT). We are looking at cytokine production pre- and
> post-stimulation of T cells with PHA/ionomycin for 4 hours. We have no
> difficulty clearly identifying CD4+ T cells on the unstimulated sample,
> but
> on the stimulated sample CD4 seems to disappear. CD3 is still clearly
> evident. Has anyone seen this before? Is the cell fixing process used for
> ic
> staining likely to interfere with CD4 expression or anti-CD4 binding? We
> don't seem to be losing cells in the short culture period.
>
> Thanks for any comments
>
> David Ritchie



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