Re: query on LPAs: replacing tritiated thymidine with flow

From: Alice L. Givan (Alice.L.Givan@dartmouth.edu)
Date: Fri Aug 09 2002 - 08:35:50 EST


Flowers,
ModFit software from Verity has  a "Proliferation Wizard" that does all the proliferation
calculations for you from cells stained with CFSE or a PKH dye  (for example,  it
gives you the precursor frequencies of the proliferating cells and it also gives you
a proliferation index that tells you how many more cells you have now than when you
started the culture).

What ModFit does is model the intensity histogram of the cells --- so it can use the
separate or quasi-separate peaks found in some cases with CFSE-stained cells.  Or it
models the theoretical positions of the peaks for dividing cells if you are staining
with the PKH dyes (that don't give such good intensity separation) or if your CFSE
staining hasn't given separate peaks.

Main problem with ModFit software is that it is using the theoretical position for
the intensity peaks of the proliferating cells -- it won't be as accurate if cells
are dividing asymmetrically and the proliferation peaks don't match the theoretical
positions expected for halving of intensity with each division.  We have found that
it matches the peaks quite well with CFSE -- as long as you use a  correction for the
particular amplifcation factor for your  log amplifier (the log decades full scale
are hardly ever exactly 4).  And we have also found that the ModFit software gave us
values that correlated well with the known values of a model system.

Conflict of interest:  After writing our paper on using PKH and flow to quantitate
precursor frequencies of antigen-specific T cells (J. Immunol. Methods 230: 99, 1999),
I worked with Verity to get them to include the precursor frequency calculation in
their ModFit software.  I have no financial interest at all in this --- but am somewhat
devoted to the concept of using CFSE or PKH to do precursor frequency calculations
as I feel this method provides much more complete analysis of proliferative responses
than does tritiated thymidine (which is only a bulk assay related to the total number
of proliferating cells at the time of the assay).

Others who,  before us, have used CFSE and flow to quantitate precursor frequencies
are Wells et al (J. Clin. Invest. 100: 3173, 1997) and Song et al (J. Immunol. 162:
2467, 1999).  If I am missing any references on this,  please let me know.

Alice

Alice L. Givan
Englert Cell Analysis Laboratory
of the Norris Cotton Cancer Center
Dartmouth Medical School
Lebanon, New Hampshire NH 03756
tel 603-650-7661
fax 603-650-6130
givan@dartmouth.edu



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