Re: Bacterial Analysis

From: Howard Shapiro (hms@shapirolab.com)
Date: Wed Jul 24 2002 - 17:42:00 EST


Tom Leonard wrote-

>I'm on a mission to determine bacterial viability as well as quantify
>bacteria using Molecular Probes' BacLight viability kit. Using an EPICS
>Elite, I have routinely found bacterial counts to be 10% of those
>determined with fluorescence microscopy. The accuracy of the microscopy
>counts have been verified by other labs. I recognize that the organism has
>mechanisms to pump out fluorochrome, but to the extent that 90% of bacteria
>go undetected? We're analyzing on the log scale. Our operators are
>accustomed to analyzing mammalian cells, but claim they have done all the
>"tweaking" possible to optimize bacterial analysis.
>
>Why such a disparity in counts? My conclusion is that the instrument simply
>can't detect the smaller organisms in the population (of E. coli).

Possibly; what signals do you trigger on?

>Also, we can see distinct populations when analyzing live controls and dead
>controls independently, but when we mix the live and dead populations we
>are often unable to distinguish between live and dead populations.
>Sometimes we can, other times we can't. It is not only strange but
>frustrating.
>
>Has anyone had similar experiences? Any thoughts on what might be
>contributing to these unexpected results? Thanks in advance.

If you can't get the bugs out of the noise, all bets are off, but I would
expect you'd be able to do that in an Elite.

-Howard



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