RE: Quenching of CD4 - APC signal

From: Gerstein, Rachel (Rachel.Gerstein@umassmed.edu)
Date: Thu Jun 27 2002 - 16:44:48 EST


its likely to be due to the bright cychrome signal needs extensive
compensation, in effect damping down the APC signal.  Switch the reagents so
that something less bright is coupled to cychrome and something brighter is
on APC.  And he should have more than a log shift for CD4-bio/SA-APC - are
the reagents saturating ?  and if its hardware compensation, check that its
not over-compensated.

good luck,
Rachel

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Rachel M. Gerstein, Ph.D.
Department of Molecular Genetics and Microbiology
Graduate Program in Immunology/Virology
University of Massachusetts Medical School
55 Lake Avenue North
Worcester, MA 01655-0002
(508) 856-1044
(508) 856-5920 (FAX)


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> From:		Ayala Sharp
> Sent:		Tuesday, June 25, 2002 8:48 AM
> To:	Cytometry Mailing List
> Subject:	Quenching of  CD4 - APC signal
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> Hi All
> One of our users performs a 4-color staining on the FACSCalibur with the
> Abs
> detailed below. When he looks at the CD4-biotin-sav-APC positive staining
> alone (in mouse thymocytes) there is a one decade shift on the log scale
> of
> the FL4 signal. When, however, he adds the other Abs, the staining of the
> FL4 is nearly completely abolished and he can't focus on the CD4+/CD8+
> population. (Even when he performs his staining as follows: first
> incubating
> the cells with anti CD4-biotin, washing, adding sav-APC, washing, than
> adding the other three Abs).
> Any explanations ? Suggestions ?
> Thanks
> Ayala
> > The Abs I am using are:
> > CD8a Cy-Chrome conjugated Rat anti-mouse monoclonal Ab (Pharmingen)
> > CD4 Biotin conjugated Rat anti mouse monoclonal Ab	(Pharmingen)
> > Streptavidin-Allophycocyanin (sav-APC) conjugate (Pharmingen)
> > Rat anti-mouse CD24/HSA  R- PE  from Southern biotechnology Associates,
> Inc.
> > Anti-mouse TCR beta  clone H57-597(FITC)  from Southern biotechnology
> > Associates, Inc.
> > The problem is as you have seen inconsistent FL4 (CD4-APC) staining when
> > combined with FL3 (CD8 Cy-Chrome) staining.
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> Dr. Ayala Sharp
> Biological Services,
> Weizmann Institute of Science,
> Rehovot, ISRAEL.
> FAX: 972-8-9344194
> Tel: 972-8-9342721 / 972-8-9342235
> E-mail: ayala.sharp@weizmann.ac.il
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