RE: Input on class experience

From: KAUR, INDRESHPAL (JSC-SD) (WLS) (indreshpal.kaur1@jsc.nasa.gov)
Date: Thu Nov 01 2001 - 08:57:12 EST


It is very important to have an isotype control. I have come across some
investigators who have not being using isotype controls. I have seen some
using only unstained cells as negative controls which is also wrong. It is
like doing any other assay without a negative control. When we have negative
or non-specific binding control in other assays (ELISA, RIA etc) how can you
not have isotype controls in flow cytometry. It also relates to the recent
discussion we have been having on this forum regarding bad data. I think
investigators need to be educated more.

Indresh  Kaur Ph.D.
Phone: 281-483-8791



-----Original Message-----
From: joan Kalnitsky [mailto:jkalnits@vt.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 11:38 AM
To: cyto-inbox
Subject: Input on class experience



	I have a client who is teaching an undergraduate immunology class
this
fall.  He approached me about including Flow Cytometry.  I was thrilled to
help and introduce a new batch of potential scientists to Flow Cytometry.
Week number one the class came to the lab to get an overview of Flow
Cytometry.  This week they were doing an experiment which involved single
and double staining of spleen and thymocytes.  When the samples arrived I
was pretty surprised.  My client, their instructor, had not done any
negative controls of any kind.	No Igg controls, no unstained cells,
nothing.  When I approached him about it he did not seem to think it was a
problem, after all he has done this staining for years.
	I am curious what this listserve has to think about this.  Am I
being over
vigil about the need to include negative controls in the education process.
 As far as I am concerned, there is no way to validate this experiment to
the students.  Flow cytometery is what I spend my working day on and it
irks me to no end to see it presented incorrectly.  Am I correct to
consider this presentation of Flow incorrect?  Am I getting caught up on
philosophical issues and missing the point here?
	The lab is coming back again next week to learn about apoptosis.  I
don't
want to open a can of worms if it isn't warranted.
	Thanks in advance for all feedback.
	Joan K



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