Re: whole blood lysis and scatter plots

From: Keith Bahjat (me@keithbahjat.com)
Date: Wed Aug 22 2001 - 14:56:07 EST


Francis, Edip, et. al......

I believe the formaldehyde fixative in FACSLyse causes the cytoplasm of the
cell to collapse around the nucleus, much like you see on a commercial
hematology analyzer, while maintaining the integrity of the surface bound
antibodies. This allows better separation of your major leukocyte
populations on the basis of scatter.

Kb

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on 8/22/01 5:24 AM, Akpinar, Edip (NIDDK) at EdipA@intra.niddk.nih.gov
wrote:

>
>
> Dear Francis:
>
> How do you explain this effect? Can this effect change any other property of
> cells and lead do invalid results? Should ve avoid using this kind of lysing
> buffers? Indeed, currently I am using hypotonic lysis, with simple water,
> but I am not sure if this is better than other methods.
>
> Edip AKPINAR
>
> NIH-NIDDK
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Simon Monard [mailto:smonard@trudeauinstitute.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 9:16 AM
> To: cyto-inbox
> Subject: Re: whole blood lysis and scatter plots
>
>
>
> Francis
>
> You always see that effect with FACS lyse, just whack up the FSC (double it)
> and you
> should get just as good lymphocyte/debris discrimination as with Ficoll
> separated
> cells. You should not need to change any compensation settings.
>
> Simon Monard
> FACS Lab Manager
> Trudeau Institute
> Saranac Lake
> NY12983
>
> Ph 518 891 3080 X352
>
>
>>>> "franis, alex and thomas andrews" <aanw38391@cableinet.co.uk> - 8/19/01
> 6:44 PM >>>
> Dear FLOWers
>
> I'm studying T-helper cells from whole blood, but am new to flow cytometry.
> I've found
> that when I use 1XFACSlyse for 10mins (2ml added to 100ul blood for 10min )
> following
> antigen labelling e.g CD4-FITC, there is a marked decrease in the Forward
> scatter
> of lymphocytes (such that they appear at ~100-200 on a 0-1023 scale and
> merge with
> debris) when compared with forward scatter of lymphocytes from unlysed
> mononuclear
> cells following Ficoll gradient separation-these lymphocytes appear at
> ~250-400 using
> the same cytometer settings.  I'm using a FACSscan and have set up 3 colour
> compensation
> using single-fluorochrome labelled mononuclear cells after Ficoll
> separation.
>
> Is this a normal effect with FACSlyse, and if so do people simply increase
> the FSC gain
> to drag the lymphocytes back over, and should I then re-do the colour
> compensation?
> Sorry if this is a bit basic but I'm a bit stuck.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Francis Andrews
> Dept of Medicine
> University of Liverpool
> fandrews@liv.ac.uk
>



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