RE: whole blood lysis and scatter plots

From: Akpinar, Edip (NIDDK) (EdipA@intra.niddk.nih.gov)
Date: Wed Aug 22 2001 - 06:24:51 EST


Dear Francis:

How do you explain this effect? Can this effect change any other property of
cells and lead do invalid results? Should ve avoid using this kind of lysing
buffers? Indeed, currently I am using hypotonic lysis, with simple water,
but I am not sure if this is better than other methods.

Edip AKPINAR

NIH-NIDDK


-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Monard [mailto:smonard@trudeauinstitute.org]
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 9:16 AM
To: cyto-inbox
Subject: Re: whole blood lysis and scatter plots



Francis

You always see that effect with FACS lyse, just whack up the FSC (double it)
and you
should get just as good lymphocyte/debris discrimination as with Ficoll
separated
cells. You should not need to change any compensation settings.

Simon Monard
FACS Lab Manager
Trudeau Institute
Saranac Lake
NY12983

Ph 518 891 3080 X352


>>> "franis, alex and thomas andrews" <aanw38391@cableinet.co.uk> - 8/19/01
6:44 PM >>>
Dear FLOWers

I'm studying T-helper cells from whole blood, but am new to flow cytometry.
I've found
that when I use 1XFACSlyse for 10mins (2ml added to 100ul blood for 10min )
following
antigen labelling e.g CD4-FITC, there is a marked decrease in the Forward
scatter
of lymphocytes (such that they appear at ~100-200 on a 0-1023 scale and
merge with
debris) when compared with forward scatter of lymphocytes from unlysed
mononuclear
cells following Ficoll gradient separation-these lymphocytes appear at
~250-400 using
the same cytometer settings.  I'm using a FACSscan and have set up 3 colour
compensation
using single-fluorochrome labelled mononuclear cells after Ficoll
separation.

Is this a normal effect with FACSlyse, and if so do people simply increase
the FSC gain
to drag the lymphocytes back over, and should I then re-do the colour
compensation?
Sorry if this is a bit basic but I'm a bit stuck.

Many thanks

Francis Andrews
Dept of Medicine
University of Liverpool
fandrews@liv.ac.uk



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