Sam, I have to agree with Robert Z. All my instruments are B-D's; although I was originally trained on an Coulter Epics. I give you that background, because the alignment beads I use are Coulter's Flow-Check Fluorospheres. I set- up a start-up panel with the following displays: X=SSC vs Y=FSC[I told you I was trained on Coulters], X=Fl-1 vs Y= Fl-2, X=Fl-2 vs Y=Fl-3, and five histograms FSC, SSC, Fl-1, Fl-2, & Fl-3; each with very small with M1 in each hist- ogram display. My voltages remain constant and are saved as well as the stats for each display. In this way I can check if it is me or the instrument or both are off. The beads have been very consistent and it is easy to check lot against lot. One of the problems I have with Chick Cells besides for not being consistent is at times they have a tendency to clog, and I'm not sure if they can be sterilized or not. Here I can be corrected I've never tried. Hope this helps The other Howard Howard S. Mostowski Core Mgr. Flow Cytometry FDA/CBER/DCGT Mostowski@CBER.FDA.Gov [301] 827-0704 -----Original Message----- From: zucker.robert [mailto:zucker.robert@EPAMAIL.EPA.GOV] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 10:26 AM To: cyto-inbox Subject: Re: Laser Focus on Stream in Air HI Sam I have always questioned using a biological particle like a CRBC that is NOT spherical to calibrate and align a flow cytometer. I understand that this is the BD approach as they had this famous San Jose chicken that gave them great blood cells. However, particles ( beads ) from various suppliers are more reproducible and the data on machine perfoamce can be compared between laboratories. However the criticism of these particles is that the fluorescence of the alignment beads is usually high than cells and the refractive index is different from cells. However, in our hands we have found this the most reliable particle for alignment purposes. At least you can get a CV value that can be compared between machines and with one machine over time. The data from the CRBC is very subjective due to biological variations, orientation factors and fluidic factors. I just don't understand why more laboratories don't use alignment beads on a routine basis to access machine performance. Perhaps someone on the Flow list can enlighten me. Bob Robert M. Zucker, PhD U.S. Environmental Protection Agency MD 72 National Health and Environmental Effects Research Laboratory Research Triangle Park, North Carolina, 27711 Tel: 919-541-1585; fax 919-541-4017 e-mail: zucker.robert@epa.gov "Witherspoon, Sam" To: Cytometry Mailing List <sw11527@glaxowel <cytometry@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu> lcome.com> cc: Subject: Laser Focus on Stream in Air 04/26/01 05:03 PM Greetings All, I am always happy to learn new things, (thanks Yuri) and so I am asking for input on the following: For years I have been adjusting the beam *focus* on our sorter with help from a pulse width signal, in this case, FSC width. The idea is that the smallest width represents the smallest beam spot. *I use glut.-fixed chicken red blood cells on a FACStar Plus. (100u nozzle) with an elliptical spot. *488nM laser at 60mW. *The CV's I get on PI-stained CTN are 3% at 256 channel resolution, which I believe for this type of instrument is quite good. Someone has my 2nd edition Shapiro tome and the cytomut treatise is therefore not available to me now. Is my reasoning on target? Constructive comments please. Cheers, Sam Sam Witherspoon sw11527@gsk.com Tel. 919-483-3078 GlaxoSmithKline R&D Page 919-857-7768 5 Moore Dr. Fax 919-483-0585 RTP, NC 27709
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