Re: with time, geometric mean increases?

From: David Coder (dcoder@u.washington.edu)
Date: Wed Mar 14 2001 - 15:37:15 EST


I've seen something similar happen with two sets of single-labeled cells (one
FITC and one PE on an antibody against the same antigen) that were mixed
together and examined over time. In 10min there is a half log increase in FITC
fluorescence. If the size of the newly bright cells is examined, their forward
light scatter is larger suggesting that cells were sticking together. Whole
antibodies were used suggesting that Fc binding could be a problem. A test such
as adding protein A or using F(ab)' fragments was not done to test the
hypothesis. Only PE-labeled cells were found to pickup FITC label suggesting
that the larger PE protein prevents cell-cell cohesion.

Dave
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----- Original Message -----
From: Maciej Simm <simmmmer@yahoo.com>
To: cyto-inbox
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 10:17 AM
Subject: with time, geometric mean increases?


>
> Dear group,
>
> I had an unusually large batch of monocyte cytokine stains to do
> yesterday, and the acquisition took a lot longer than usually. Long
> enough, in fact, to notice that between the control sample (acquired
> at time=0) and the last patient (acquired at time=3.5 hrs) CD33 FITC
> and CD45PE-Cy5.5 signal went up by half a log.
>
> The samples were fixed and washed multiple times so there's no way
> there was any free antibody left to "add" more signal.
>
> Why did the signal go up so much?
>
> The unstained, external and internal isotype stains were unaffected.
>
> Any thoughts would be appreciated,
>
> Maciej
>
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