RE: Hoechst and BrdU

From: Plett, P Artur (pplett@iupui.edu)
Date: Thu Feb 15 2001 - 15:10:48 EST


Hello David

I have never tried the BrdU stain with Hoechst, but I do see a high FITC
background in mouse cells, specially when using the isotype provided in the
"BrdU FITC set". This makes sense somewhat since the isotype is a mouse
IgG1. However, the rat-isotype also gives a high background. We have
therefore started to stain non-BrdU labeled cells with the anti-BrdU as a
background control. Additionally, in some experiments using -in vivo- BrdU
labeling, the BrdU positive population was not a separate population but
"only a shift away" from the background. This generally happened when using
the antibody in the "FITC set".

...Incidentally, I found out that the anti-BrdU antibody in the "FITC set"
is not the same as the one in the "BrdU kit". The antibody in the kit has a
higher FITC labeling and will therefore give a brighter more separate
population, which is critical when staining few or dimm in vivo labeled
cells, while the "FITC set" works fine for in vitro labeled cells. We were
recently informed however, that the "brighter" anti-BrdU antibody will not
be available separate from the kit (for those of us who make our own perm
solutions) until the "dimmer" lots have all been sold....

Artur Plett, PhD
Post-doctoral fellow
IU School of Medicine Div. of Hematology/Oncology
Indianapolis, IN 46202


-----Original Message-----
From: David Dombkowski [mailto:dombkows@helix.mgh.harvard.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 11:21 AM
To: cyto-inbox
Subject: Hoechst and BrdU



 I am trying to use a pre-incubation with hoechst 33342 to stain DNA
followed by fixation and permeabilizing with the BD Pharmingen Brdu flow
kit. After treating cells with Dnase and staining for Brdu I notice a high
background in fitc channel with BrdU-fitc staining. I would like to know if
this has something to do with Hoechst staining followed by BrdU staining
and whether it would be better to use another UV DNA dye. I would
appreciate any comments on this issue. Thanks.

David M. Dombkowski
dombkowski@helix.mgh.harvard.edu
Flow Cytometry-Pathology-CNY rm7017
149 13th Street
Massachusetts General Hospital-East
Boston, MA 02129
Tel. (617)726-1683
Fax.(617)724-3164



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