--33364686-6808-959881400=:87 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Language: en-GBR Following the application of the BD FACSlyse the eosinophils are easiest detected in log sidescatter vs autofluorescence or their position in the log side scatter versus antibody fluorescence plot (see attached word97 document, data from the Beckmann Coulter XL). As the signal intensity on neutrophils and eosinophils correlates with the volume, the 2 dimensional region is the more accurate analysis method. We use the same method for adhesion molecule analysis on granulocytes. For a histogram based analysis one would have to transform the axis for optimal separation as done already some years ago by the 'hidden line' feature in the software from Partec. If you set your background region for a higher percentage you will also see a difference in the subtracted % positives, but still never get as good ad 2D. Regards Gerhard -----Original Message----- From: Becky Kelly [SMTP:Eak@medicine.wisc.edu] Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 12:55 AM To: Cytometry Mailing List Subject: analysis question I am interested in opinions from this esteemed group concerning the best way to analyze the following data (see attachment in MSWord format). My colleagues and I can not reach a consensus. We are assessing cell surface determinants on eosinophils in lysed whole blood. Since lymphocytes are also analyzed, compensation is set based on FITC-CD3/PE-CD19. An eosinophil gate is established by back-gating on CD45bright/CD14 dim (autofluorescent) cells and a CD16/CD14 cocktail is used to exclude any neutrophils or monocytes that might contaminate the gate. To determine the % positive cells, we are using either the dot plot or histogram. For dot plot, a tight gate (R2) is set around autofluorescent cells in the PE-IgG control sample (Top left panel). A larger gate (R3) is established to allow identification of positive cells. The % positive cells are calculated as (1-(R2/R3))X100. Histograms are gated on R1 (eosinophils on scatter plot) and R3. M1 is set on isotype control. For signals that have a large shift (ie. CD11b, middle panel), the % positive are the same using either method. When the signal is weak, such as for cytokine receptors (right panel), only a small proportion (in this case 27%) are positive based on histogram; whereas, the dot plot would indicate nearly 100% positive based on a shift out of the "negative" region. Any opinions, comments about how to express these data? Is there any reason why the dot plot method would not be acceptable? << File: flow eos question.doc >> --33364686-6808-959881400=:87 Content-Type: TEXT/x-cdsi-msrtf; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Language: en-GBR {\rtf1\ansi\deff0{\fonttbl {\f0\fscript\fcharset0 Comic Sans MS;}{\f1\fswiss\fprq2 Arial;}{\f2\fswiss\fcharset0 Arial;}} {\colortbl ;\red128\green0\blue0;} \uc1\pard\cf1\lang1033\f0\fs20\par \pard Following the application of the BD FACSlyse the eosinophils are easiest detected in log sidescatter vs autofluorescence or their position in the log side scatter versus antibody fluorescence plot (see attached word97 document, data from the Beckmann Coulter XL). As the signal intensity on neutrophils and eosinophils correlates with the volume, the 2 dimensional region is the more accurate analysis method. We use the same method for adhesion molecule analysis on granulocytes. For a histogram based analysis one would have to transform the axis for optimal separation as done already some years ago by the 'hidden line' feature in the software from Partec. If you set your background region for a higher percentage you will also see a difference in the subtracted % positives, but still never get as good ad 2D.\par Regards\par Gerhard\par \par \objattph\'20\par \pard\par \cf0\protect\f1\fs16 -----Original Message-----\par \protect0\pard\protect\fi-1440\li1440\tx1440\b From:\tab\b0 Becky Kelly [SMTP:Eak@medicine.wisc.edu]\par \b Sent:\tab\b0 Tuesday, May 23, 2000 12:55 AM\par \b To:\tab\b0 Cytometry Mailing List\par \b Subject:\tab\b0 analysis question\par \protect0\pard\protect\lang2057\f2\fs20\par I am interested in opinions from this esteemed group concerning the best way to analyze the following data (see attachment in MSWord format). My colleagues and I can not reach a consensus. We are assessing cell surface determinants on eosinophils in lysed whole blood. Since lymphocytes are also analyzed, compensation is set based on FITC-CD3/PE-CD19. An eosinophil gate is established by back-gating on CD45bright/CD14 dim (autofluorescent) cells and a CD16/CD14 cocktail is used to exclude any neutrophils or monocytes that might contaminate the gate. To determine the % positive cells, we are using either the dot plot or histogram. For dot plot, a tight gate (R2) is set around autofluorescent cells in the PE-IgG control sample (Top left panel). A larger gate (R3) is established to allow identification of positive cells. The % positive cells are calculated as (1-(R2/R3))X100. Histograms are gated on R1 (eosinophils on scatter plot) and R3. M1 is set on isotype control. For signals that have a large shift (ie. CD11b, middle panel), the % positive are the same using either method. When the signal is weak, such as for cytokine receptors (right panel), only a small proportion (in this case 27%) are positive based on histogram; whereas, the dot plot would indicate nearly 100% positive based on a shift out of the "negative" region. Any opinions, comments about how to express these data? Is there any reason why the dot plot method would not be acceptable?\par \par << File: flow eos question.doc >> \par } --33364686-6808-959881400=:87--
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