Carl, don't despair--FlowJo runs fine on G4's in OS9-- you can use it to analyze all of your data files, be they BD, Coulter, Cytomation, or any other fine manufacturer's. Tree Star will soon have a specific version of FlowJo that will take advantage of the G4 "altivec" processor--allowing significant improvements in calculation speeds by doing multiple simultaneous calculations. In alpha-testing, the altivec-specific version performs compensation 2-5 times faster than the standard version! For more information, see <http://www.treestar.com/flowjo/> mr At 3:46 PM +0100 2/2/00, Carl-Magnus Hogerkorp wrote: >Dear All, > >I wonder who to curse (BD,Verity or Apple). Having looked through all inputs >on this line of subject, I thought let's just use the WinList on the G4 in >the meantime. However, despite the use of iMate the computer can't find the >dongle and therefore won't cooperate. > >OK that CellQuest doesn't work in the OS9 environment, what about Winlist is >it just the ADB connects that is the problem or is it the OS9 again? > >What is possible to run on the G4? >Shall I send it back? > > >Carl-Magnus Högerkorp >Stem Cell Laboratory >University Hospital of Lund >Sweden > >-----Original Message----- >From: Newsom, Brian S. [mailto:BSNEWSOM@txccc.org] >Sent: den 13 januari 2000 17:57 >To: Cytometry Mailing List >Subject: RE: G3s G4s, MacOS and CellQuest - a cautionary tale > >David, > >Sorry to hear about your woes. I wanted to pass on the information I have >regarding this issue. I have been talking to BD about upgrading some of our >FACScans to Macs with Cellquest and have talked to them briefly about G3 vs >G4. They know there are problems with OS 9.0 and they are working on them, >that is why currently they are only selling G3's. They do have OS 9.0 >compatibility in the works and I would expect it would come fairly soon. In >our discussions with BD it sounded as though by the time we get our act >together to get the necessary machines they may be ready to go with G4's and >OS 9.0. > >Best of luck, >Brian Newsom >Director, Flow Cytometry >Center for Cell and Gene Therapy >Baylor College of Medicine > > >-----Original Message----- >From: David Chambers [mailto:davidc@ccmi.salk.edu] >Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 11:26 AM >To: cyto-inbox >Subject: G3s G4s, MacOS and CellQuest - a cautionary tale > > > >Wotcher Flowers, > >I thought I would share my recent experience with everyone. > >Recently we had the need to set up a new CellQuest analysis workstation to >cope >with demand for Mac time. So we ordered a new computer from Apple. It was >a >G4 machine because that's all they sell now unless you want an iMac or >powerbook. Of course, it shipped with MacOS 9.0 installed, and arrived last >week. A very nice looking machine, rather reminiscent of a Porsche :-) > >B-D now ships CellQuest with a USB dongle, so there were no problems with >USB-ADB adapters or the like, and CellQuest installation went fine until we >tried to run it. Firstly the BDPAC control panel would not work because >the computer told us "BDPAC cannot load because BDPAC cannot be found". >Secondly, CellQuest ran perfectly for 5 seconds (approximately) and then the >Finder decided to intervene, saying it wanted attention. If we gave it >such, >it shut down CellQuest saying that the server containing it could no longer >be >found, then complaining about a Type 3 error. Note that while the finder >could >not get our attention, CellQuest ran nicely - we could load and save files, >analyze, print, etc., but one accidental click outside the CQ window and >WHAMMO! > >We tried the usual things - increasing CQ memory, turning all unnecessary >extensions off, disconnecting the network, etc, etc, all to no avail. "No >problem", I thought, "Let's install OS 8.6, we know CellQuest is fine with >that" > >Except.... THE NEW G4's WILL ONLY RUN MacOS 9.0 or LATER. It is >totally impossible to install 8.6 on them. We called Apple for help and >were >told that this is indeed the case and they couldn't/wouldn't help, hard >luck, >it was the Application's fault. Apple has changed to a new motherboard in >recent machines and it is impossible to use older versions of MacOS. So we >gave up and sent the G4 back. We found a blue G3 machine at MacWarehouse, >it >runs 8.6 and runs CellQuest impeccably. > >All the above diatribe is just to warn others thinking of getting a new >computer that they may have no prospects of being able to run CellQuest on >it. >It is sad that Apple should no longer manufacture machines capable of >running >a previous OS, particularly since OS 9.0 appears to have issues with many >other >applications software as well. > >Pity. > >-- David
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