Re: MESF and correcting for isotype matched controls

From: Gillis Otten (Gillis_Otten@cc.chiron.com)
Date: Mon Jan 10 2000 - 18:36:31 EST


     I presume that the concept underlying the subtraction is that some 
     fraction of the binding of the monoclonal antibody is "non-specific", 
     i.e., binding to things other than the antigen of interest.  Why not 
     eliminate this nonspecific component by pre-incubating the cell sample 
     with an excess of isotype-matched control, or some appropriate 
     equivalent, and then completing the staining with the antibody of 
     interest in the continued presence of the matched control?  It should 
     be easy enough to determine to what extent this would reduce the MESF 
     values for cells expressing low amount of antigen.
     
     Gib Otten
     Chiron Corp.
     Emeryville, CA


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Subject: MESF and correcting for isotype matched controls
Author:  Calman Prussin <CPRUSSIN@niaid.nih.gov> at SMTP
Date:    1/6/00 11:42 AM


     
We are quantitating cell associated antigens using standardized beads and 
then generating an MESF from the standard curve generated from the beads. 
The question has come up whether or not to "correct" the MESF values 
obtained from the specific antibody by subtracting the MESF values obtained 
for the  isotype matched controls. 
     
The problem with correcting the values is that it has little effect on the 
samples with high density of Ag, but has a large effect on those with low 
expression. As such, if we run replicate samples   on the low expressing 
samples we find a larger amount of  variation in the corrected MESFs. My 
bias is not to use it, as it seems to introduce more "noise" into the 
system. Your thoughts?
     
Thanks!
     
> _______________________
> Calman Prussin
> Laboratory of Allergic Diseases
> NIAID/ National Institutes of Health 
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