Re: 7-AAD/PE problem

From: DAVID M CODER (d_coder@MSN.com)
Date: Wed Jan 30 2002 - 12:02:56 EST


As Howard noted below, energy transfer is likely the cause of diminished
nuclear protein labeling in the presence of 7-AAD. (A look at the absorption
spectrum of 7-AAD shows that it is excited at the emission range of PE about
as efficiently as it is excited by the 488nm laser line.) In addition to a
loss of the PE signal, you should see an increase in 7-AAD fluorescence. (If
you really want to show 7-AAD is responsible, prelabeling DNA with the
non-fluorescent AAD will block 7-AAD binding and should have no effect on PE
intensity.) But from a practical standpoint, compatible DNA probes would
include DAPI (if a uv laser is available) or TOPRO-3 if a red laser (HeNe,
Kr, or diode) is available; PE emission will be unaffected. Moreover, you
can still use another 2 or 3 other 488-excited fluorochromes at the same
time.

Dave
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David M. Coder, Ph.D.
Consultant in Cytometry
email: d_coder@msn.com
tel./messages: 206-499-3446

----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard Shapiro" <hms@shapirolab.com>
To: cyto-inbox
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 4:52 AM
Subject: Re: 7-AAD/PE problem


>
> Brian Newsom wrote-
>
> >Question to all of you DNA experts. We have someone who is tring to run
an
> >experiment staining a nuclear localized protien with PE and then staining
> >with 7-AAD. The 7-AAD staining works well with a good CV. The antibody
> >staining looks decent (although low percentage and fairly dim) when by
> >itself, but when the 7-AAD is added the antibody staining totally goes
away.
> >Is there an energy transfer or steric hinderance issue that may be going
on?
>
> Steric hindrance is unlikely to be the problem since the antibody gets in
> in the absence of 7-AAD, which itself is not that big a molecule.  The
loss
> of PE fluorescence is almost certainly due to energy transfer to the
> 7-AAD.  Since energy transfer works at very short range, we don't expect
or
> see this effect when surface antigens are stained with PE- (or
> fluorescein-) labeled antibodies and 7-AAD (or PI) is used to stain
nuclei,
> but it can be very noticeable when working with nuclear antigens, as is
the
> case here.
>
> -Howard
>
>
>



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