Running Coulter's ECD conjugates on a Vantage SE and a Calibur

From: Barsky, Lora (LBarsky@chla.usc.edu)
Date: Wed Nov 14 2001 - 20:51:35 EST


Hi everyone,

In our quest to run more colors on the sorter, we have been using Coulter's
ECD (PE-TxRed) conjugates on our Vantage SE.  The vantage is equipped with
Enterprise and HeNe lasers.  We do not have any means to cross-beam
compensate.  So, plugging the Bandpass for RED613 (610bp20) into FL3  has
made it possible to sort four colors on our system along with the
traditional, FITC, PE and APC.  We have also chosen ECD because PerCP
quenches about 1.5logs on our Vantage and PE-Cy5 crosses too much into APC.

BUT...  I have users here who want it to work on the Calibur, because they
don't want to buy or can't buy PerCP conjugates or PE-Cy5 conjugates and
because they want to directly compare emissions from both machines. But that
is another problem of mine - I digress... So, since we cannot change out the
optics for FL3 on the Calibur, they are collecting only the far red tail of
the emission with the standard 675LPfilter; they are completely missing the
emission peak.  I've told them that the conjugate wasn't designed to work on
a Calibur, but the user "saw signals" and now I'm dealing with their "it
works fine for me" syndrome, when I ask them to refrain from promoting this
antibody combination to other users who are beginning 4 color work.  Could
anyone provide me references that would help get my point across?

If there is someone out there who does this combination successfully on
their Calibur and really trusts their data, could you share with me the
typical instrument settings values you're coming up with? I understand that
there are instrument to instrument differences but would still like to
know...

Thanks,
Lora W. Barsky, Research Specialist
CHILDRENS HOSPITAL LOS ANGELES
Research Immunology/Bone Marrow Transplant
Flow Cytometry Core
4650 Sunset Blvd. Mail Stop #62
Los Angeles, CA  90027
(323) 669-5935



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