Re: no PharRed

From: Marty Bigos (mbigos@gladstone.ucsf.edu)
Date: Thu May 24 2001 - 18:49:46 EST


Hi -

What follows is a conversion between the integrated PMT holders that
Cytomation uses and the Hamamatsu tube types.
Description		Hamamatsu Tube Type
PMT & Mounting, H957-06 931B
PMT & Mounting, H957-08 R928
PMT & Mounting, H957-12 R1477
PMT & Mounting, H957-15 R3896

You have an R928 type tube. That is significantly less sensitive than
the R3896 type tubes, not only in the longer red wavelengths, but in
all measurement channels from FITC on out. We had a 1477 type on the
Cy7APC (PharRed) channel here and we could not see separation between
the positive and negative peaks of CD8 stained lymphs. Upgrading the
PMT to a 3896 tube fixed that (although that measurement channel is
not as good as some others). We also switched the PMTs on all the
channels (except side scatter) to the 3896 type, and saw an
improvement on each.



On the Vantage here we use a HeNe at 35 mW and a filter set similar
to yours. To check for staining problems you could first bulk stain
cells with a biotinilated  or unconjugated antibody, alloquat into
separate tubes and follow by second steps with different conjugations.

>Hi All
>
>I have been unable to detect a PharRed signal from samples I have
>been given, and don't know if the problem is instrument or labeling
>error.
>
>MoFlo set up is as follows:
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>Hammatsu 957-08 PMT all around
>
>Omega Optical Filter Set XF501  (consists of 710 DRLP, 670DF40, and 740EFLP)
>
>Melles Griot 35mW HeNe
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>
>Red laser alignment seems fine:  "Molecular Probes AlignPlus beads
>for 633" are almost off scale if no ND filter, at 399V, linear gain
>1.  BD's APC like Calibrites show excellent separation + / - ( >2
>logs) 580V.  Whether I measure APC in FL5 (remove 710LP dichroic,
>use 670/40BP) or FL6 (710LP plus 670BP), I obtain good APC signal.
>But no PharRed with the 710LP dichroic / 740EFLP in FL5, and no
>PharRed signal even if I remove the 710LP dichroic.
>
>BD Pharmingen Technical data sheet recommends a Hammatsu R3896 PMT
>for improved red sensitivity.	Is the Hammatsu 957-08 deficient in
>the >740 range?
>
>If not, what's up?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Claude
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Marty
Gladstone Institutes Flow Core
mbigos@gladstone.ucsf.edu
695-3832



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