Re: lysis protocol

From: Bernhard Peball (bernhard.peball@igeneon.com)
Date: Mon May 22 2000 - 09:55:48 EST


Hi kevin,
CPT stands for Cell Preparation Tube
Apparently BD don't want to sell them to everyone, so the hide it in the maze of their
complicated website.
You can find them at
http://catalog.bd.com/scripts/OBDsheet.exe?FNC=productlist__Alistproducts_html___362753
Only Na- Heparin and citrate are available. Price is about $5.- (per tube, not per
case...)
you can fin them at http://catalog.bd.com if you type CPT into the search line.
Basically, it's a Vacutainer with a Ficoll soln. covered with a disgusting slimy
sludge. You use it like a normal Vacutainer, then fuge it at 1500xg/RT for
20mins.
That's it. You get a fine PBMC buffy on top of the sludge. You can even transport the
whole thing after centrifugation with the PBMC's suspended in their
own plasma.
But if you plan to collect the granulocytes from the pellet via dextran sedimentation
or thelike, forget it.
You'll never get thru the sludge barrier. That stuff is really sticky :-(

For the lysis protocol you can use Heparin- Vacutainers just as well. In Fact, I had
to, since BD needed 8(!) weeks to deliver the EDTA- Vacutainers. That's
why I said they'd need some competition. Carefully stick to the ratio lysing soln. /
blood

Good luck, brn



On Fri, 19 May 2000 16:43:47 -0500, Kevin Waddick wrote:

   What is a Vacutainer CPT? How does it substitute for Ficoll separation? The protocol
that was referred to mentioned K3 EDTA Vacutainer blood collection tubes. Are these the
Vacutainer CPT? When I was in the BD website, I found about a zillion matches for
Vacutainer
and when I narrowed it with CPT there were far fewer but these had a relevance of 18% at
most. When I looked in my BD catalog, there was no mention of Vacutainers for sale. Very
puzzling.

Kevin G. Waddick, Ph.D.
Parker Hughes Cancer Center

Bernhard Peball wrote:

> Dear Sathi,
>
> I use the lysis protocol mentioned on the "BD Monoclonal Antibodies Source Book" CD.
> It's very simple and the viability of the cells is good. I avoid Ficoll, if
possible. Too
> tedious.
> A Vacutainer CPT does the same and is a lot easier in handling.
> If you don't have the BD CD, you can find the protocol at
> http://www.bdfacs.com/source_book/html/23_1372n.shtml
> Anyway, if someone has a better one, I'm always open to improvements.
>
> BTW: is there any alternative to BD CPT- Vacutainers? The product is just fine,
> but our local BD representative could need a little competition :-)
>
> Yours, brn
>
> On Tue, 16 May 2000 12:19:54 -0400, Sathi wrote:
> >
> >Hi there:
> >
> >We have been doing indirect immunofluorescent surface staining for
> >phenotyping (against surface markers) on PBMC isolated from blood. We
> >isolate PBMC from heparin added blood using Ficoll-hypaque (Pharmacia)
> >gradient centrifugation method. Now our lab is considering using whole
> >blood staining method since lot of others suggested that we might be losing
> >some minor cell sub-populations during Ficoll-centrifugation and
> >recommended whole blood staining. Since I have not done whole blood
> >staining method so far, could people who are already doing whole blood
> >staining method tell me where I can get the protocol (any useful
> >references), any technical tips in adopting the method, any tips on making
> >the lysis reagent (buffer). I would appreciate very much any help on this
> >methodology.
> >
> >
> >Thanks in advance
> >
> >Sathi
> >-------------------------------------
> >e-mail: sathy@oitunix.oit.umass.edu



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