Rhodamine 123 is a distributional membrane potential probe. The dyes distribute according to the nernst equation, but once inside the cell they find an intracellular binding site they hang on to acting as an intracellular sink. This allows more fluorochrome to enter the cell, leading to a substantial signal enhancement. As nicely described in Howard Shapiros book, in mamalian cells it can be used at high concentrations to act as mitochondrial MP measurement. When the dye is washed away the dye is retained in the mitochondria as it is in distributional balance with the remaining dye in the cells cytoplasm. However, if you read Howards book you will find better ways to do that, (especially in his recent work on distributional MP staining) and also how it all works. Remember that the signals are dependent on the MP, and the number of sinks (e.g. volume of the cell and concentration of binding sites) In bacteria the problem is that most of them have efflux systems for small cationic lipophilic molecules. Ethidium Bromide and RH123 are effected by those pumps, thus do not label pumping cells. Dyes with higher influx kinetics or used at very high extracellular concentrations can overcome the efflux pumps. Propidium Iodide (PI) is so far the most reliable dye exclusion stain, e.g. it does not go in intact (potentially reproductive growing) cells. If you mix a heatfixed and a hapy non-pumping lot of cells and stain them with PI you can counterstain with different concentrations of RH123 to see at what concentrations only the intact cells pick up the RH123 and when both populations become green fluorescent. I got the pictures in my tutorial if you need them Good luck Gerhard -----Original Message----- From: Surapon Worapongpaiboon [SMTP:raswp@mahidol.ac.th] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 3:00 AM To: Cytometry Mailing List Subject: Rhodamine VS Propidium iodide Dear all: Does anyone know if rhodamine stain dead cells or just viable cells? and is it true that dead cells don't pick up propidium iodide? I just want to use only rhodamine as a single dye to exclude dead cells and also an indicator of dye efflux. Thanks Surapon Worapongpaiboon, M.D. Department of Pathology Ramathibodi Hospital Mahidol University Bangkok, Thailand
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