Carsten, Andrew is correct in what he has said. In addition, the NIH3T3 line was dervived from the NIH/Swiss strain of mice. I don't know about the others. I'm not sure about the others. I have not been able to find out the exact derivation of the NiH/Swiss strain. (Does anyone out there know?) However if it is related to other Swiss strains then it is likely expresses the MHC "q" haplotype. PharMingen sells an anti-H-2K^q (clone KH114) and an anti-H-2D/L^q (clone KH117). However, I would first try to confrm the haplotype before I bought any antibodies. If I find out any more info I will post it. If you are trying to identify cell lines in a mixture take a look at the forward and side scatter. Often you can distinguish a cell line by those parameters alone. Alan ______________________________________________________________________________ Alan M. Stall Vice-President, Research Immunocytometry PharMingen Tel: (619) 812-8843 10975 Torreyana Rd. FAX: (619) 812-8888 San Diego, CA 92121 E-mail: AStall@PharMingen.com WWW: http://www.pharmingen.com To: cyto-inbox cc: (bcc: Alan Stall/SDCA/BDX) Subject: Re: identify murine cell lines >I want to identify murine cell lines (PG13, Mus dunni, NIH3T3) by flow >cytometry. >These cells are derived from TK-NIH3T3 but I dont get them stained with >antibodies against MHC I H-2k (should bind to mouse stains like balb c). >Has anyone done this before or knows which markers identify these cells as >murine cells? >Thanks >Carsten Lindemann Carsten, NIH3T3 cells should have plenty of MHC class I on their surface - I think you problem is that NIH3T3 cells, and cells from Balb/c mice, are H-2d, not H-2k. Hope this helps AW Andrew D. Wells, Ph.D. University of Pennsylvania Department of Medicine 904 Stellar-Chance Laboratories 422 Curie Boulevard Philadelphia, PA 19104 (215) 898-1951 (215) 573-2880 (FAX) adwells@mail.med.upenn.edu
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