7ADD vs Hoechst/DAPI

From: Louis King (kingl@pilot.msu.edu)
Date: Thu May 27 1999 - 09:55:08 EST


  I have done considerable 3 color phenotyping off of 488 using and used UV
to attain a cell cycle by DAPI staining.  My observations pretty much
parallel the postings so far.

  A titer of DAPI concentration for DNA staining vs DNA fluorescence
profile analyzed by Multicycle generally demonstrates DAPI concentration in
the 1.5-2.5 ug/ml gives the best cell cycle result but as described, the
fluorescent noise in the FITC channel is obnoxious!

  I use a Vantage and over the years have discovered part of the problem is
optical alignment.  The further away from minimum width laser focus, the
worse the noise.  I have been told it may have to do with light piping up
the sheath or sample column.

  Howard Shapiro's comment makes alot of practicle sense.  Fresh cells I've
seen stained with Hoechst 33342 and GFP show no DNA dye noise in the green
channel.  Excellent cell cycle!  The GFP signal was > 2X that of any
FITC-antibody staining I've seen.  Two secrets here--fresh cells and the
low gain setting for detection of GFP made HO noise in green fluorescence
unnoticable.

  Cells fixed in 1.25% formaldehyde for a short period of time and held in
buffered saline+2% FBS + azide seems to have much less DAPI staining noise
in the FITC channel than cells fixed in 2% formaldehyde overnight, washed,
and stained immediately.  In the first case cells may be stained overnight
in DAPI and in the second case, usually for less than 3 hours.

  Last observation.  DAPI staining in the presence of protein for either
ethanol or formaldehyde fixed typically reduces DNA staining noise in the
green channel.  However, the degree of noise reduction is irritatingly
variable.

  S O o o--Will someone volunteer accurate infomation on:
1)  Optical alignment and its influence on Hoechst/DAPI fluorescence in
proper and improper channels.
2)  Continue the discussion on Ho/DAPI dyes and fixation especially if
you've tried the glycine block idea.  What is the result here.
3)  In the last observation, why is the result variable?  DAPI stock and
FBS stock remain constant along with the HBSS salt source, Milli-Q water
souce. pH variablity 7.2-7.4 with preparation & age.

  Louis King
  kingl@pilot.msu.edu



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