(Fwd) 'alternative' live/dead stains?

From: Heidi Engelhardt (hengel@APS.UoGuelph.CA)
Date: Mon Jan 11 1999 - 12:10:04 EST


Hello!  I would like to pick the brains of the group for help in setting 
up a three colour protocol.  So far, my experience is
limited to double staining, using FITC and PE.  I have had no 
official training on the flow cyt, so there are huge gaps in my 
knowledge ...

I am trying to set up a flow cytometric assay to detect lysis and 
conjugate formation between target cells (K562 myeloid leukemia 
cell line) and effector cells (natural killer (NK)-like lymphocytes 
from the pregnant pig uterus).  Uterine cells will be a mixed 
population, with only a proportion of them lytic.  

Another complication is that the uterine lymphocytes likely to be 
mediating the killing are much larger than conventional NK cells.  
Normally, one can distinguish targets from circulating NK cells by 
size, but I suspect that my uterine effectors will be similar to the 
target cells in size and granularity.  

SO.  I need to set up a three colour protocol.  I  need to label my
targets, label the dead cells, and somehow identify the effector cells
(surface phenotype - they strongly express CD16).  Originally I was
considering the following strategy:

DiOc    - to label targets (behaves much like FITC)
PI        - to label deads

and a third label, conjugated to the secondary antibody I use to detect
the CD16-positive cells.

For this third label, I was thinking about 'Tri-Color' (TC; Caltag).  
This combination looked good on paper (DiOc, PI, TC) - the TC 
would be excited by the argon laser and emit at a sufficiently high 
wavelength to be distinguished from the other two.  However, I 
discussed this with the Coulter flow cytometry support person, and 
she warned me that PI has a very broad emission that interferes 
with just about anything other than molecules emitting in the FITC 
range.  

She told me about an alternative to PI for live/dead staining - called 
7-aminoactinomycin-D (7-AAD).  I have been through the Molecular 
Probes catalogue.  It seems that 7-AAD is OK for cell cycle 
analysis but not so good for viability.  Does anyone have any 
experience with this?  There was a comment in the catalogue 
about 7-AAD staining non-differentiated versus differentiated cells.  
Staining of viable target cells (tumour cells) would make this stain 
useless for our purposes ...  (we are ordering the reference for this - 
could be that because they were assessing DNA staining rather 
than viability, they actually permeabilized the cells first).

Can anyone suggest alternative strategies?

Thanks!

Heidi Engelhardt


Heidi Engelhardt
Department of Animal and Poultry Science
University of Guelph
Guelph, Ontario
CANADA N1G 2W1

phone:  519-824-4120, ext. 3658 or 8355
fax:    519-767-0573
email:  hengel@aps.uoguelph.ca



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