Maryalice Lets get back to the drawing table and try to make sense with this case. CD19 and CD20 are B cell markers, is this a B cell leukemia? may be but B cell leukemia without kappa and lambda, should be a PreB cell or even early. (see papers from Fritz Meltchers (Basel) and Max Cooper Birmingham AL). Since it is CD10+, it sounds good and fit with the HLA-DR+(see seminal papers from Henry Kunkel and Bob Winchester), Maryalice, you made the point. CD34 is a stem cell marker, so is this a stem cell leukemia? may be and everybody is happy. But "Houston we have a problem" because CD13 (Aminopeptidase) and CD33 are markers of monocyte lineage. Then lets found a win-win solution. A leukemia with both phenotypes, early, early B and myeloid. However, is raining in the party since CD45RO is associated with memory T cell, are this memory T cells?, is unlike. Then, lets digging in the library and MEDline, and after 13412 references of CD45, there is a nice description of 4 cases of M1 CD45RO and they said that is a unique situation. But still there is a problem, is a publication in Japanese with abstract in English and I could not get the full text. (93353742- Tatsumi E, Yoneda N, Kawano S, Yamaguchi N, Department of Laboratory Medicine, Kobe University School of Medicine. TI - [Cytokine in phenotypic analysis of leukemia/lymphoma: suppression of gene expression of myeloperoxidase by IFN-gamma and subset of AML M1 defined by CD45RO+/RA-, CD7(-), CD34(-) and non-inducible HLA-DR antigen]. [Japanese] SO - Rinsho Byori 1993 Apr;41(4):377-83) but Chang could get it easily in Korea. In summary, this is a very interesting case that require further studies ( several weekends for you Chang) but my best shot is that this case is really a description of a new stage or branching in the differentiation process, something between myeloid and B cells. Our publication describing similar cell lines to Chang s case is in press in Immunology letter and will be out in a couple of months. Chang: Again, please try to generate cell lines from these patient that later you can do all the studies that you wish or dream. Cheers Rafael >Correct me if I am wrong, but lymphoid and myeloid blasts express HLADR >rather nicely. Also, CD45 negativity may be due to loss of expression >completely, low level expression not detected, or failure to expresson >surface. Neoplastic cells drop antigens at will. > > Maryalice > > >>Dear Chang >>Your description is quite interesting and I would like to suggest a couple >>(?) of markers that you may be considered worthy to study >>1-Since your cells express quite high DR (96%), and since the cells that >>express highest DR are Dendritic cells-Langerhans cells, one marker that >>could be interesting to check would be CD1a, and the markers associated to >>Antigen presenting cells like CD11c, CD56, B7.1 and B7.2. (sorry, a lot of >>work for the weekends of a third year resident). Please check the cells >>also for Fc receptors (IgG and IgA receptors are express in some of those >>cells) >>2-The fact that your cells do not show CD45, does not mean that they are >>negative for that marker, may be you have a cell that will express a splice >>out isoform of CD45. My best shot is that your cell is CD45RO. I have >>observed some cell lines that do not express CD45 but they are CD45RO. We >>are going to present in Colorado at ISAC some cells with that >>characteristics. >>3-Please try to get cell lines from this patient. I recall the work from K. >>Nielsson who, got a cell line form a patient and now after more that 25 >>years still is a very useful one, that cell line is U937 a monocytic cell >>line. May be you have something quite similar. (it means, a lot of lab work >>and more weekends in the lab). >>Cheers, good luck and keep in touch (What is your opinion Anna?) >>Rafael >>>Dear list members >>> >>>Have you ever seen a case of CD45 (leukocyte common antigen)-negative >>>acute leukemia? >>> >>>The male patient was in his early 30's and visited our hospital with >>>chief complaint of low platelet number. He felt fatigue and experienced >>>easy bruisability but looked well. >>>At the time of visit on Jan 6, 1998, the CBC data was WBC 6,000/uL, >>>Hb 8.5 g/dL, platelet 24K/uL. The peripheral blood smear showed >>>30% leukemic blasts and bone marrow revealed 89.6% medium sized leukemic >>>blasts with high N/C ratio, fine chromatin, and absent to one nucleolus. >>> >>>Cytochemical stain was done; peroxidase (-), SBB (-), PAS (pinkish >>>background >>>staining), Non-specific esterase (-). >>> >>>Flow cytometric analysis of bone marrow aspirates revealed a predominant >>>population of cells with a lymphoid light scatter. These leukemic blasts >>>has following immunophenotype; >>> >>> CD34 (+; 94%), HLA-DR (+; 96%), nuclear TdT (+; 92%) >>> CD33 (+; 53%), CD13 (+; 88%), CD61 (-) >>> CD7 (-), CD5 (-), CD2 (-) >>> CD20 (+; 27%), CD1 >>>9 (+; 90%), kappa (-), lambda (-), CD10 (+; 90%) >>> >>>and, interestingly CD45 was negative. >>> >>>We could find CD45-bright normal lymphocytes on CD45-RALS (right angle >>>light scattle) dot plot thus false-negative for CD45 of these leukemic cells >>>was ruled out. >>> >>>Anti-CD45 monoclonal antibody (Beckton-Dickinson Immunocytometry Systems, >>>Cat No. 347463, USA) clone 2D1 conjugated with FITC (IgG1) was used at that >>>time and we confirmed this CD45 negativity with immunostain on bone marrow >>>aspirate smears using DAKO monoclonal antibody. >>> >>>Molecular and cytogenetic studies were also performed and demonstrated >>>minor bcr/abl (e1a2) rearrangement and t(9;22), respectively. >>> >>>We concluded this case as a CD45-negative acute biphenotypic (myeloid and B >>>lymphoid)leukemia. >>> >>>I tried to find out previously reported cases of CD45-negative acute >>>leukemia >>>but failed except some lymphomas. >>> >>>My questions are; >>> >>>1. Is this case the first one of CD45-negative acute leukemia? >>> >>>2. If it is not, could any one kindly tell >>>me his/her experience or >>> the source of literature of reported cases? >>> >>>3. If it is the first one, I want to establish a new cell line with this >>>case. >>> Could you give me a good reference or tips in doing this work? >>> >>>Any comment will be greatly appreciated. >>>Thanks in advance. >>> >>>================================== >>>Chang-Seok Ki, MD >>>3rd-year Resident >>>Dept. of Clinical Pathology >>>Samsung Medical Center >>>E-mail. kcdol@samsung.co.kr >>>Tel. 82-2-3410-2707 >>>Fax. 82-2-3410-2719 >>>================================== >> >> >> \|/ >> (o o) >>________________________________oOo__(_)__oOo_________________________________ >> ___/\_ | Rafael Nunez mailto:rafaeln@vetvir.unizh.ch >> / o \/| | University Inst.for Virology http://www.vetvir.unizh.ch/ >> / _| | Winterthurerstr. 266a Telephone: (+41) 1 6358710 >> /_/\__/-\/ | 8057 Zurich SWITZERLAND Faximile : (+41) 1 6358911 >>______________________________________________________________________________ > >Maryalice Stetler-Stevenson >Director Flow Cytometry Unit >Laboratory of Pathology, NCI, NIH \|/ (o o) ________________________________oOo__(_)__oOo_________________________________ ___/\_ | Rafael Nunez mailto:rafaeln@vetvir.unizh.ch / o \/| | University Inst.for Virology http://www.vetvir.unizh.ch/ / _| | Winterthurerstr. 266a Telephone: (+41) 1 6358710 /_/\__/-\/ | 8057 Zurich SWITZERLAND Faximile : (+41) 1 6358911 ______________________________________________________________________________
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