You might be interested to come to the microbiology workshop at the ISAC meeting where such things will be addressed (see abstract below). Bacterial growth media are full of green fluorescent stuff even without adding dyes. One of the major components hit by the 488nm line are riboflavins which come form yeast extracts. I am not sure about your additives. Resazurin should react more in the UV where it is used in the commercial Almar Blue Assay. Other oxidation r eactions occur in the autoclaving process which also give r ise to precipitates that screw up light scatter discrimination, so it is worthwhile to filter all solutions in use. Best bet is to try starting with a stationary culture broth (approx 10^8 cells/ml or more) and dilute 1:100 in buffered peptone water to sort out your instrument settings. I would suggest log/log scatter settings anyhow, and try to set up the instrument on yellow/green 0.5um beads (first on green fluorescence threshold) which give scatter similar to most bugs. Alternatively you can use heatfixed bacteria in the presence of 2 to 5 ug/ml PI or EB and trigger on red fluorescence. Once you established a clear scatter cluster you can try switching to scatter gating. In most instruments side scatter is the better option. Good luck Gerhard The Venue: ISAC XIX congress 28/Feb/1998 Colorado Springs (see http://nucleus.immunol.washington.edu/ISAC.html) Tutorial on Microbial Flow Cytometry, The Program: The aim of the tutorial is to give flow cytometry users the confidence and the technical background to tackle the measurement of bacteria. To achieve that there will be a theoretical part and presentations of practical applications, accompanied by protocols and reference literature. It is envisaged to organise some practical demonstration with regards to instrument set-up within the week. 1. Background information : (Gerhard Nebe-von-Caron) 1.1 Technical background Setting the environment : Requirement on labware and reagents. Setting up the instrument : Calibration standards Signal processing: Triggering / threshold settings, Bacterial discrimination, back-gating Light Scatter measurements : Opportunities and limitations Sorting bacteria : Instrument preparations for sterile sorting 1.2 Functional and differential labelling of bacteria Bacterial enumeration: Sample handling, disaggregation and counting methods. The viability concept : Measurement of reproductive viability, metabolic activity and membrane integrity. Bacterial differentiation : Antibody staining in of "environmental" samples. 2. Practical applications : 2.1 Microbial Flow Cytometry in Biotechnology (Susann Muller) The measurements of physiological changes in biological processes and their influence on process control will be presented. This will cover the measurement of cell proliferation by DNA synthesis and changes in the cell wall structure and the prediction of "survival capacity" by assessment of cell constituents such as stored energy and cell membrane functionality. 2.2 Antibiotic susceptibility of Mycobacterium tuberculosis and Candida albicans (Ronald Shell) This presentation describes a method to test the antibiotic susceptibility of clinical isolates of the above species based on metabolic activity. Materials and sample preparation, instrument set-up, analysis and data interpretation will be discussed. The team: Dr. Susann Muller, University of Leipzig, Fakultaet fuer Biowissenschaften Dr. R.F.Schell and S.M.Kirk, University of Wisconsin, State Laboratory of Hygiene Mr G.Nebe-von-Caron, Unilever Research Laboratory Colworth ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Bacterial counting Author: oberyszyn.2@osu.edu at INTERNET Date: 24/12/97 12:41 Hello everybody and Happy Holidays to all before I begin! I have a question which I hope someone can help me with. I have recently taken over as flow operator of a core analytical flow lab and I am somewhat new to flow in general so please forgive me if this is a trivial question. I have an investigator who would like to do bacterial counting (Porphrymonas Gingivalis (a gram neg. rod) using the Molecular Probes Kit (Bacterial Counting Kit #B-7277). According to the protocol, I should be able to get signals with log FS vs. lin SS. We ran a sample the other day and I was not able to destinguish between debris and the bacterial cells (i.e., I was getting the same type of signal with media alone). I tried different discriminator settings but could still not get a difference in settings. The media they use is BH1 media enriched for anaerobes (some contents= hemin, Vit. K, cysteine, resazurin). When I ran the beads (included in the kit for quantitation) in dH2O, I got exactly the pattern Molecular Probes info sheets says you should, however, when I ran beads in media only, the bead pattern disappears and I get alot of fluorescence (middle of Fluorescent intensity (log scale) and low on FS (log scale). I guess my question (in a round about way) is, do any of the items mentioned in the media show green fluorescence? We thought it might be the resazurin but we haven't tried that yet. Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated!! Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night!!! Andy Oberyszyn The Ohio State University Analytical Cytometry Laboratory 416 Comprehensive Cancer Center 410 West 12th Avenue Columbus, Ohio 43210 Tel: 614/292-FLOW(3569) Fax: 614/292-7335 E-Mail: cytometry@osu.edu
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