Dear Jill, I have done extensive work on this, to the point of making 2 patent applications, one current. Most of the measurement issues are technical: Flow rates used RBC thresholding Nucleated and WBC discrimination/gating Coincidence effects on scatter signals Coincidence effects on fluorescence of positives and negatives... Basically, you need to run at high flow rates, of >50,000 cells/s and then you need to threshold out most RBCs (say 90%, when 0.1% are WBCs), but the remainder comprise WBCs at or below 1/1000 cells. Every white cell has 1, 2 , 3, 4,.. RBCs coincident except for a MoFlo MLS system with 5 microsecond dead-times, where you get mainly none, one or two coincident RBCs. My patent protocols generally use a pulse width and a DNA dye to add an exclusion gate for non-nucleated cells, but then you must resolve the issue of RBC coincidences and how they affect gates for the WBC subsets and the dispersion in fluorescences of positives and negatives! If you don't have a MoFlo, then buy one; else forget it! You dig? Try me out for more, though I am not a masochist. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Martin, Jill V. [SMTP:martin.jill@mayo.edu] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 1997 4:12 AM To: Cytometry Mailing List Subject: Staining of Whole Blood. Hi to everyone in Flower Land. I have an investigator who wants to look at leucocyte markers using unlysed whole blood. He says that was the protocol used at the institution where he used to work. I have never run samples prepared this way, nor have I heard of anyone doing it. The first trial was not a success. If anyone who reads this knows if and how the samples can be stained and analysed I would appreciate hearing from them. I would also like to hear if you think that it is impossible so I can pass that information along. Jill Martin, , Manager Molecular Biology & Flow Cytometry Core Johnson Research Building Mayo Clinic Scottsdale 602-301-6071 (Voice) 602 301-7017 (FAX) email: jmartin@mayo.edu or martin.jill@mayo.edu
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