Re: Sorting Bacteria

From: Gerhard Nebe-von-Caron (Gerhard.Nebe-von-Caron@unilever.com)
Date: Tue Apr 08 1997 - 04:20:56 EST


          The change of the low end signals when starting to vibrate 
          the flow cell usually comes from the fact that you may hit 
          the liquid stream at a point were the surface starts to 
          ripple.
          
          Supravital counterstain is ethidium bromide (5ug/ml) in PBS 
          with 0.1% azide and 0.05% Tween 20. It can be used with 
          both, PE and FITC labeled antibodies. For our studies of 
          dental bacteria we usually used a triple staining of FITC 
          antibody, EB supravital and PI dead cell label to sort 
          intact bacteria. Alternatively CFDA, PE-antibody and PI can 
          be used.
          
          The azide is required to deenergize the pumps that otherwise 
          pump out the supravital stains. In a lot of cases this can 
          as well be achieved using a TRIS/EDTA buffer.
          
          Triggering works best with peak scatter in the Elite, but I 
          do not know about the timing issues on the FACS star. If you 
          stay tuned on scatter, you know at least what else has been 
          there. If possible trigger on both, scatter and DNA 
          fluorescence.
          
          Gerhard Nebe-v.Caron
          Unilever Research, Colworth,
          Sharnbrook, Bedfordshire
          GB - MK44 1LQ
          Tel:    +44(0)1234-222066
          FAX:    +44(0)1234-222344
          gerhard.nebe-von-caron@unilever.com



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Subject: Sorting Bacteria
Author:  BarrenP@MedImmune.com at INTERNET
Date:    05/04/97 05:22


Flowers!

     Does anyone have any experience with  sorting bacteria (Streptococcus)
on a stream in air flow cytometer. I am using a
     FACSTAR Plus.

     What I think I need is a dye that will allow me to counter stain all
the bacteria (preferably live)  to be used in conjunction      with a dim
surface label, and then sort on the surface labeled positives. The
counter stain would need to be dim so as      not to interfere with the dim
surface label.

     I have tried to sort with a SSC log threshold. and this does not work.
     As soon as I vibrate the stream  I loose all low end resolution which
is where my bacteria are.

     I need to use a fluorescent trigger to threshold on, this would be less
sensitive to stream vibrations which is what I           assume is killing me on
the log SSC threshold.

     Just a note all my Scatter parameters are on logarithmic amplification.



Thanks in advance for your time and energy

Philip Barren

Pb



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