RE: $$ Fees for Flow $$

James W. Jacobberger (jwj@po.cwru.edu)
Wed, 21 Feb 1996 12:48:22 -0500

I would like more statistics on fees as well. I'm tired of the winers.
At Case Western Reserve University, we charge $50/hour for the Profile, and
$75/hour for the Elite - no charge for setup time, analysis, advice,
babysitting, writing and getting Cancer Center Core or Shared
Instrumentation grants, and aspirins/alcoholic beverages/phychiatric care
(for us).
A while back, I worked out that this was $1.38 per sample for cells run
at a 1000 per second and $3.85 for cells run at a 100 per second (on the
Elite) - and collecting 6250 (1000/s) or 12500 (100/s) events. This assumes
that you want 5,000 good events to measure the percent postive of something
or 10,000 usable events for something more complex like a DNA histogram -
and that you're not talking to your girlfriend/boyfriend at the same time
you're running.
On the profile the price is $0.92 and 2.57 respectively. The price for
all other costs for that sample if it is taken from tissue culture and
stained indirectly for 1 antigen is $13.50.
It seems to me that the flow cytometry is a bargain. There are a lot of
estimates that go into that $13.50. It includes the principal
investigator's salary and the researcher's salary and assumes that they are
preparing 25,000 samples per year. If they are doing less, then obviously
the price of the sample goes up.
The cost of $13.50 does not include the $6.75 that should be added to the
price that goes to the institution (~50%) if the sample was prepared with
NIH money. The real cost then, of an NIH funded sample is ~$21.17.

As an aside, not to be taken seriously - Richard, if you'll extend this
price to us, up here in Cleveland, we'll subcontract our users to you!

Jake

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>I'm also interested in flow user fees. From what I've read so far, it
>seems that flow users at Ohio State U. are getting a real bargin.
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>We charge $20/hr. for analysis of cells on our Elite analyzer. Use of our
>Meridian ACAS 570 confocal interactive laser cytometer is only $32.50/hr.
>* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>* Richard K. Meister Email: Meister.1@osu.edu *
>* The Ohio State University Voice: (614) 292-9716 *
>* Dept. of Veterinary Biosciences FAX: (614) 292-6473 *
>* Cytometry Instrumentation Lab *
>* 1925 Coffey Road *
>* Columbus, OH 43210 U.S.A. *
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