Re: DiVa nozzle salt volcano

From: Andy Riddell <Riddell@embl.de>
Date: Fri Jun 27 2008 - 06:30:16 EDT
Frank, David,

You could test this by placing wet towels or tissues in the sort  
chamber and timing the build up?

Andy.

Andy Riddell
Flow Cytometry Core Laboratory
EMBL Heidelberg
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On 26 Jun 2008, at 02:20, dombkowski@HELIX.MGH.HARVARD.EDU wrote:

>  The issue of buildup of salt on FACSVantage Diva is related to  
> relative humidity in sorter environment. When humidity is low and  
> air is dry the salt buildup is amplified. When humidity levels are  
> higher the problem becomes less apparent.
>
> David
>
> Hi Frank,
>
> We also saw this on our FACSVantageDiva a couple of years ago - also	
> on the 70 micron nozzle at 30psi. It disappeared after a couple of  
> weeks and has not reoccurred.
>
> Conjecture at the time was that there were some "issues" with the in- 
> house PBS but we were not able to get any further than that. Another	
> possibility was the nozzle attachment - we replaced several o-rings  
> around that time because of seepage. The visible seepage didn't  
> correlate with the salt build so it wasn't an obvious cause but I  
> guess there might have been low level seepage that could have been  
> contributing.
>
> Let us know if you work it out.
>
> Regards,
>
> Adrian Smith
> Centenary Institute, Sydney, Australia
>
>
>
> On 24/06/2008, at 10:52 PM, Glenn Paradis wrote:
>
>> Hi Frank,
>>
>> We saw the exact same phenomenon way back in the 1980's with our  
>> FACStar Plus (10 PSI)  and then later with our FACS Vantage with  
>> Turbo Sort Option (30 PSI).	A quick nozzle flush fixed the salt  
>> buildup.  Switching nozzles did not solve the problem.  Our	
>> solution was to move away from BD FACS Flow sheath fluid and go to  
>> NERL Diluent 2.  When we switched, we never had the salt buildup  
>> again.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>> Glenn Paradis
>> MIT Flow Cytometry Core Facility
>> gap@mit.edu
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 22, 2008, at 11:00 PM, WEHICytometry wrote:
>>
>>> In 31 years of flow cytometry I hadn't seen this before (although  
>>> I don't get out much).  Lately we experience this phenomenon on  
>>> our FACSVantageSEDiVa where, in the course of a few hours, the  
>>> nozzle grows a salt volcano around the stream (I've attached a  
>>> picture).  This does not affect the breakoff nor the sort streams  
>>> nor even the acquired data until the volcano grows high enough to  
>>> impinge on the first laser.  It can also be removed easily by a  
>>> wipe with a wet swab (although that's really inconvenient if the  
>>> need arises during a sort).  Note: we are talking about a 70  
>>> micron nozzle running PBS as sheath at 30 psi - nothing fancy.
>>>
>>> The question is: what causes it?  We *see* no leaks outside the  
>>> nozzle tip but I'm wondering if the orifice has eroded and that's  
>>> causing seepage.  Is there anyone who has seen this and/or has an  
>>> idea of the cause?
>>>
>>> Frank Battye.
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>>>
>>> <DiVaNozzleVolcano.jpg>
>
>
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