Re: Bay bioscience opens US office and introduces its JSAN cell sorting and analysis system there

From: Adrian Smith <a.smith@centenary.usyd.edu.AU>
Date: Sat Mar 22 2008 - 06:14:08 EDT
I agree with Sue and Roland. I would hate to see the list swamped by  
marketing material but the occasional announcement like the one below  
is definitely of interest to me.

Another example of a mailing list that works with some vendor input  
from time to time is the confocal mailing list - often there the  
subject line will be prefixed with "Commercial". Some people on that  
list on that list are also careful to declare commercial interest -  
which I always appreciate.

The bottom line, to quote, out of context (?), from another thread :)

> If you don’t want to hear (read) it then just delete it.
> JL


Regards,

Adrian Smith
Centenary Institute, Sydney, Australia





On 21/03/2008, at 5:16 AM, FloCyte Associates, INC wrote:

> No this is not acceptable!  I'm sorry, I just don't get it!  I agree  
> 100% with Roland.
>
> I can't understand your position at all?   WHO pays the majority of  
> the expenses for meetings?  Vendors! Without them your cost to  
> attend ISAC would probably triple or quadruple!!   Who allows you to  
> have very cheap or FREE local users' group meetings? Vendors!  Who  
> solves issues with vendor services??	VENDORS!  Why on earth would  
> you exclude vendors from the discussion???
>
> And actually SOME people welcome messages from vendors... Vendors  
> can solve a lot of your problems!  The Boston Area high speed sorter  
> list, for example, welcomes vendors responses and they get results.   
> The vendors HEAR their requests and respond!	I've learned a LOT  
> from vendors!  Without messages from Vendors, how do you find out  
> about new products and services?  How often would you go to the ISAC  
> website to look for a new product you don't even know exists?  Or  
> how do you know there is some training opportunity happening in your  
> area?  OR how do Vendors know what you need and how do you get your  
> service / technical questions heard by all vendors?
>
> Shutting them out isn't the answer to your mail problems!  Roland's  
> answer was eloquent!	And, although we've discussed this often,  
> nothing has ever evolved that is a better suggestion!  If you don't  
> like messages from vendors, just filter them out, and having  
> [Company:]  in the subject time is a perfect way to do that!
>
> I'm sorry, I just don't get it!!   Why would you shoot yourself in  
> the foot?  Vendors - you can put my email address on your mailing  
> list!!  Just put [Company:] in the subject line!  I'll filter them  
> and decide what I want to read or not read later!  Just like I  
> filter this list!
> Sue
>
>
> At 01:37 PM 3/18/2008, you wrote:
>
>> I would suggest extending this to include use of e-mail addresses  
>> from the mailing list for commercial solicitation.  Can we agree  
>> this is unacceptable ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joanne  Lannigan [ mailto:jl7fj@cms.mail.virginia.edu]
>> Sent: Sun 3/16/2008 11:56 AM
>> To: cyto-inbox its JSAN cell sorting and analysis system there
>>
>> Please refrain from use of this list for commercial purposes. The  
>> ISAC
>> website has a place where you can post news releases about such  
>> events or
>> information. Thanks-
>>
>> On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:17:03 -0500
>>   "Jeffrey Harvey" <jsharvey01@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > Bay bioscience is a Japanese company, based in Kobe.  The company  
>> designs,
>> > develops and manufactures high performance cell sorting and  
>> analysis
>> >systems
>> > and also develops unique reagent products.  The company made the  
>> decision
>> > earlier this year to establish a direct office in the United  
>> States and
>> > to introduce its instrument systems here.	Bay bioscience  
>> currently offers
>> > the JSAN system, which combines high performance cell sorting and  
>> analysis
>> > capabilities in a compact and affordable design.  The company  
>> office is in
>> > the San Francisco area and the company has demo sites on both the  
>> East
>> >Coast
>> > and West Coast.  Please visit the company website  
>> (www.baybio.co.jp ) to
>> > learn more about the company and its products.	   I will be  
>> overseeing the US
>> > operation and also the distribution of the products in Europe   
>> The company
>> > will be an exhibitor at both the Northwest Regional Cytometry  
>> Meeting
>> >(March
>> > 13-15, in Portland, OR) and at the ISAC Congress in Budapest (May  
>> 17-21).
>> > Please visit us at either of those meetings, if you wish to  
>> discuss any
>> > aspect of the company's products.	In the interim, please feel  
>> free to
>> > contact me directly, at this email address.  I'll look forward to  
>> hearing
>> > from you.
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> >
>> > Jeff Harvey
>>
>>
Received on Mon Mar 24 16:58:00 2008

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