RE: Measuring FL-A and FL-W

From: Guy Hermans <Guy.Hermans@ablynx.com>
Date: Thu Mar 22 2007 - 04:59:49 EDT
Hi B.,
 
Standard FACScans and -Caliburs measure only pulse height, which is why
parameters were displayed as "FL1" etc, rather than "FL1-A" and so on.
 
There was an option for "doublet discrimination" based on pulse
processing in the old days, if I remember correctly only on the
'Calibur. Though I never got my hands on such a machine myself, I seem
to recall from reading specs they didn't do that the way a present-day
digital machine will (H, A and W), but rather standard pulse height (H)
measurement and width (W).
 
I may be off here on the details for lack of hands-on experience, but
the bottom line is that most likely your 'Scan doesn't do pulse
processing beyond pulse height measurement. Trying to get plots using
parameters which aren't acquired will get you... empty plots! Why CQ
will allow you to check the boc when the machine doesn't have the
electyronics to do so is probably a user interface issue, unless I was
wrong about 'Scans not having the DDM option.
 
Guy
 



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-----Original Message-----
From: Lewis, Benjamin - lewby002
[mailto:Benjamin.Lewis@postgrads.unisa.edu.au] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 3:03 AM
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Subject: Measuring FL-A and FL-W



Hi all,

I'm working on DNA content analysis with cancer cell lines treated with
a particular apoptosis/anti-proliferative agent.  I'm staining the
(fixed) cells with 7-AAD as a means to find cell cycle block and
apoptotic populations, working on a BD FACScan cytometer (Cellquest Pro
software).

To gate out doublets I'm setting a dotplot of FL3-A vs FL3-W, however
this is where things go wrong.	No events are represented on this graph,
however there definitely is FL3 signal as I am getting FL3-H data.  It
just doesn't seem to be measuring FL-A or FL-W, or if it does it is too
low to register on the scale.  No matter what I've tried events don't
register on the A vs W plot, I've tried changing gains, voltage, high
flow rate, low flow rate, anything I can think of.  (On the software the
DDM box is ticked, and set to FL3 by the way).

Our resident experts don't know as they haven't had to use A or W
before, so I'm kind of stumped.  Its not only FL3 that won't measure A
or W as I tried PI on FL2 and the same occurred.

I suppose for starters, is the BD FACScan actually capable of measuring
FL-A and FL-W?	I think it is  as the user books that came with is talk
about A vs W plots.
If so, is there a set up step I'm excluding?  All I'm doing is a new
dotplot of FL-A vs FL-W, DDM box is ticked (supposedly to allow FL-A and
FL-W measurement) and set to FL3 and thats it.	(Obviously FL3 voltage
is set to place G1 population on an FL3-H histogram)


Any help would be very much appreciated.  I realise this is a kind of
difficult problem to explain so my apologies if it doesn't make sense.

Thankyou

Benjamin Lewis, BBiotech (Hons)
PhD candidate
Sansom Institute
University of South Australia
Reid Building, Frome Road
Adelaide SA 5000

Phone 8302 2421
Benjamin.Lewis@postgrads.unisa.edu.au





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