From mailnull@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu Wed Mar 14 14:06:56 2007 Received: from flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu (localhost.cyto.purdue.edu [127.0.0.1]) by flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id l2EJ6mTR018241 for <cytolist@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu>; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:06:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mailnull@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id l2EJ6mlU018240 for cytolist; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:06:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mailnull) Received: from nihrelayxway2.hub.nih.gov (mailfwd.nih.gov [128.231.90.107]) by flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id l2EJ6eET018228 for <cytometry@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu>; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:06:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rrabin@helix.nih.gov) Received: from helix.nih.gov ([128.231.2.3]) by nihrelayxway2.hub.nih.gov with ESMTP; 14 Mar 2007 15:06:41 -0400 X-IronPortListener: NIH_Relay X-SBRS: None X-IronPort-AV: i="4.14,285,1170651600"; d="scan'208"; a="278211928:sNHT26296644" Received: from helix.nih.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by helix.nih.gov (8.13.6/8.11.7/2SCANNER) with ESMTP id l2EJ6e5058191099; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:06:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 150.148.254.30 (SquirrelMail authenticated user rrabin) by helix.nih.gov with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:06:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <24160.150.148.254.30.1173899200.squirrel@helix.nih.gov> In-Reply-To: <E0E163AC32EC5048BE2C5763527DDCD66A1556@IDIBXMAIL2.csc.es> References: <E0E163AC32EC5048BE2C5763527DDCD66A1556@IDIBXMAIL2.csc.es> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:06:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: intracelular staining and RNA extraction From: rrabin@helix.nih.gov To: Cytometry Mailing List <cytometry@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu> User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: -3.528 () BAYES_00,NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 X-PMFLAGS: 34078848 0 1 18251.cnm Don't know if this helps, but. . . It is important to note that paraformaldehyde X-linking, which cross-links methyl groups, can be reversed. (Gluteraldehyde x-links free amines and cannot be reversed). Whether that means that the mRNA can be captured, I don't know. Another issue is whether the RNA is lost with the permeabilization. ron > Greatings to everyone, > > I’m sorting B-lymphocyte populations in a FACS Vantage using four colors > staining. I’ve got to permeabilize cells for intracellular staining and > I’m testing cell fixation/permeabilization reagents. The reason is I > have to extract RNA from those cells with array quality. The usual > fixation/permeabilization reagents contained paraformaldehide and their > cross-linking propriety didn’t allow RNA extraction. I’ve already > tried to decrease paraformaldehide concentration but the result was the > same. > > I also test organic fixation/permeabilization reagents like ethanol but my > flow images were really bad. > > I found some papers where they refer Permeacyte (Bio-E) as a non-cross > linking reagent that will probably suits. I try to find out who sells this > product but seems that it is out of the market. Then another product named > Permeafix (Orthon Diagnosis) will probably act the same way. The latter > one no it’s no longer commercialized. Looks like Permiflow it’s the > new > one that substitutes those reagents. > > I test Permiflow and it goes perfect for my flow analysis but I still > can’t extract RNA. > > Does anybody know of some reagent, staining procedure that fulfills my > objective? > > Thank you very much for your help, > Maria Joao Baptista > >Received on Thu Mar 15 12:38:00 2007
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