Re: BacLite (microbial)

From: Ultan Cronin <ultan.cronin@ul.ie>
Date: Thu Jun 08 2006 - 06:50:24 EDT
Hi Elaine,

The fact that nothing cultures after three weeks and yet you still have 
SYTO 9-only-positive cells may mean

1)  All your microbes are in fact dead and therefore the advice that 
Howard gives will provide you with a better method of proving this

2)   Not all of your bacteria are in fact dead.  This is a messy 
hypothesis to prove and entails entertaining the idea of viable but 
non-culturable (VBNC) bacteria (or even freakier, "active but 
non-culturable" [ABNC] bacteria).  Many microbiologist would bite your 
hand off for suggesting that VBNC bacteria exist.  I prefer to talk of 
"not immediately culturable" microbes. These could be slightly damaged 
microbes that need time in a friendly, non-challenging	environment in 
order to recover the capacity to reproduce and form colonies on agar.  
Perhaps the SYTO 9-only-positive cells need to be held in a recovery 
medium before they'll grow on solid media?  Perhaps they need to be 
plated out therafter on a rich medium like blood agar (with nutrient 
agar as the base) for them to form colonies?  If you have the option of 
sorting this SYTO 9-only-positive sub-population and performing a few 
experiments using various recovery media (peptone water, Ringers etc.) 
your curiousity might be salved.

I hope the above has helped a little,

Ultan

Elaine Kunze wrote:

> We want to ennumerate the number of live bacteria in a gel.  The bugs 
> are Staph epidermidis.  We are using the BacLite kit.  We see a number 
> of green only bacteria under the microscope despite the fact that 
> nothing cultures after three weeks.  We do have some PI reds, but 
> there are many green onlys.  What am I missing?
>
> Elaine Kunze
> Flow Cytometry and Imaging
> Huck Institutes of the Life Sciences
> 319 Life Sciences Building
> Penn State University
> University Park, PA 16802
> 814-863-2762
>
Received on Thu Jun 8 14:18:00 2006

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