RE: ISAC Membership

Paul, Jochen (and other friends & colleagues concerned with ISAC membership)

I applaud Paul's fast response to this issue and Jochen's suggestion. Indeed, corporate
support to scientists in underprivileged countries in such a form may provide benefit to
everybody. In fact, when we initiated similar action years ago Wiley-Liss was generous
enough to offer over 25 complimentary subscriptions of Cytometry to scientists that could
not afford it (then mostly from Eastern Europe and Russia). I know that since then
several of them become full members of ISAC. Although political/economic geography is
changed the ISAC membership/ Cytometry subscription is still out of reach to scientists
in many countries.    
 I suggest that to promote this initiative ISAC could provide one page of Cytometry (per
volume, or per year) presenting the "honor list" of the companies (perhaps with their
logos) that contribute to such a cause. This would be a "free" advertisement to them,
offered for a contribution that is valuable to ISAC. 

Zbigniew Darzynkiewicz, M.D., Ph.D.
Brander Cancer Research Institute at NYMC
19 Bradhurst Avenue, Suite 2400
Hawthorne, N.Y. 10532
darzynk@nymc.edu


-----Original Message-----
From: Jochen Barths [mailto:jbarths@titus.u-strasbg.fr] 
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 5:35 AM
To: cyto-inbox
Subject: Re: ISAC Membership

Paul,

Thank you for responding so quickly and to look closer into the issue. I
knew you would be open and responsive. On the other hand, seeing the
tremendous number of out of the office messages I got, maybe you were the
only one to really read my post ;-))

A suggestion for finding help:

Virtually all major companies in cytometry do business in "third world"
markets. Usually you can find open ears for support among them. Especially
since they apply the same strategy as ISAC currently (one world one
tarif).
So for them sponsoring ISAC for a some good customers is feasible, they
would have to look into their local marketing budget.

So maybe ISAC wants to contact them and ask for a participation, the
approach would be even more credible, if ISAC applied some reduced fees in
these cases.

For this you should not just contact corporate headquarters somewhere in
the US or Europe, but rather their regional head offices, that are in
direct business contact with these underprivileged countries.

Hope this can be of some help. And once again thank you for taking care of
this issue.

Best regards

Jochen


Dr. Jochen BARTHS
Shared Service of Flow Cytometry / Cell Sorting
IGBMC
1, rue Laurent Fries / B. P. 10142
F-67404 ILLKIRCH CEDEX

> Jochen and Colleagues;
> Jochen's point is well made and I can assure you ISAC is
> listening. I should remind you all that Professor
> Darzynkiewicze established several programs a number of
> years ago when he was president of ISAC. We need to
> make sure that these are currently working.
>
> I am very happy to accept all suggestions (and of course
> criticisms - they will be taken very seriously!!)
>
> kind regards
> Paul Robinson
>
>
>
> On 17 Mar 2005 at 11:40, Jochen Barths wrote:
>
> Date sent:		Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:40:50 +0100 (CET)
> Subject:		Re: ISAC Membership
> From: 		"Jochen Barths" <jbarths@titus.u-strasbg.fr>
> To:			Cytometry Mailing List
> <cytometry@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu>
> Send reply to:	jbarths@titus.u-strasbg.fr
>
>> Dear Michel,
>>
>> TOUCHÉ!
>>
>> You brought up a very good point. Of course here is not the forum to
>> discuss  issues of ISAC (even if you consider, what the "I" stands for
>> in
>> the acronym), but since ISAC's president elect is certainly following
>> the
>> list very closely I feel that your mail is a message to take home for
>> ISAC
>> management.
>>
>> Having cooperated with Eastern European cytometrists for many years I
>> had
>> enough opportunities to experience the deafness of ISAC as far as
>> discounts for the less privileged countries were concerned. So the only
>> chance for many colleagues outside of North America and Western Europe
>> was
>> to find commercial sponsors. (Maybe a solution for your situation as
>> well.)
>>
>> But since nowadays ISAC seems to look thoroughly for new members, the
>> management might become "creative" to find a solution. Obviously the
>> motivation should be there.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Jochen
>>
>> Dr. Jochen BARTHS
>> Shared Service of Flow Cytometry / Cell Sorting
>> IGBMC
>> 1, rue Laurent Fries / B. P. 10142
>> F-67404 ILLKIRCH CEDEX
>>
>> > I would love to join ISAC. Unfortunately, this
>> > "international" society has its membership fee only
>> > based on the North American standard wage, not on my
>> > third-world-type salary. How about making membership
>> > fees dependent on the location of the member, like
>> > other European societies do (i.e. special discount for
>> > members located outside Western Europe and Northern
>> > America)?
>> > I am not a member so I am afraid I can't make that
>> > point to ISAC. I tried thought, but my e mail has
>> > received neither reply nor acknowledgement.
>> > Michel
>> >
>> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> >
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>> > 701 Tainan
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>> >
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